Out of interest what’s the lab?

Only reason I ask is I’ve had some weird experiences with SG Primo. I’m fine with their oils but their primo seems to give me a mild allergic reaction.

Even low dose 50mg makes my eyes and forehead itch. It’s so strange. Never had any reaction local to the injection site though.

Thanks so much for sharing all you the info you do Jordan, it’s inspired me to work in more cardio and HIIT sessions which I’m really getting into now.

Has your pre/intra-nutrition changed at all now you’ve added in the conditioning routines?

I’m starting re-think my own as the post-weights conditioning rounds are also giving me gnarly back…

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I’m coming to the end of a tidy up phase than has ran to 8 weeks. I’m finding the older I get, the more aggressive I have to be with calories to shit fat on stubborn areas like lower abs/back.

Ending this cut on 15k steps and 1800 cals Rest Day, 2000 calories Training.

Prior to this my calories were 3800 rest, 4400 training.

I’m happy with the…

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Hi mate, injuries and set backs are just part and parcel of training and pushing your body.

So don’t beat yourself up about any ‘lost gains’ or lost progress while you’re in recovery – you’ll be amazed how quickly it all comes back.

Way I see it, you’re currently healing so all those extra calories will do just fine 🙂

Give yourself some time…

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Signs for me other than already mentioned.

High = oily skin, blood pressure up

Low = dry skin

Just been having a clear out and found half a dozen vials of equipoise. There’s no date on them, but I’ve had a search back through emails and I bought them back in 2016.

From a quality lab back in the day, all unopened vials stored in a drawer.

Soooo what do you think? Bin or pin?

Don’t suppose you got any bloodwork done when on the 500mg test?

Would have been really useful to see where that put estrogen to fine tune later on.

Going with a lower dose test 350mg seems reasonable given your estrogen sides, but adding in NPP is gonna make that trickier to really figure out if those sides arise again at 350mg test.

How about…

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mast seems a bit redundant in conjunction with the primo, mate. Might also drop estrogen too low.

200mg test, 200mg primo is a fine starting point.

The smart setup might be to start there and bump either primo or test incrementally as you go through the offseason.

Or just stick with the 400mg total if its serving you well. I don’t know where you…

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What’s your bodyfat % at?

How long are the pins you’re using?

Sounds like you aren’t getting deep enough into the muscle and it’s sitting subq.

Have you pinned the Test E anywhere else just to rule out the gear itself?

Personally not a fan of pinning glutes, look at ventrogluteal, delts, lats.

Much less hassle and if you compete or have plans…

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Dropped from ~4200 on training days down to ~2800. I’ve dieted on way less calories in the past and not experienced this, but yeah, might still be adjusting to the carb drop.

Either that or this cyclic dextrin I got is really just glucose and its slamming me later on 😀

Sweating, shakes, tunnel vision. Resulted in the best tasting cocopops in…

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I’m 2 weeks into a mini cut and today is the second time I’ve gone hypo after training legs.

I usually give it about an hour or so after training to eat my Post-WO meal, but the hypo feelings are kicking in around 45mins after i leave the gym.

No exogenous insulin involved or anything, it’s just a crappy feeling and sets my appetite on fire so…

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Lots of threads on this lately.

In a nutshell, great hassle free option for cruise/trt but IM still the better option for blasting injects anything north of 1ml at a time.

Gear/tolerance dependent ofcourse you might find 0.5ml is your limit before you get some localised reaction etc.

SubQ is perfect for cruise periods giving your routine sites a rest. Use thinner gear with insulin pins and it’s a breath of fresh air aha.

Whether you pin subq on blasts depends on overall oil volume.

Pinning longer esters ED fits this protocol well but it’s gonna boil down to how your body reacts locally to the pins.

Small, temporary lumps and…

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I think I’m pretty much there, I just need to be accepting of certain things psychologically which might take some doing.

I can use X amoung of drugs, I have X weight cap and my health markers need to be X.

Now how strong can you be, how good can you look within these new parameters. I think that’s something that would be pretty motivating…

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I’ll just preface this by saying I’m not a competitive bodybuilder – training is a huge part of my life and everything I do in my day to say life revolves around it.

I’ve been in and out the gym most of my teenage-adult life and been lifting seriously for the last 10 years (logging/nutrition/training/progression/health).

Last 6 years on AAS…

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i go back and forth all the time on homebrewing. The process itself isn’t *hard*, but you’re still exposing yourself to fuckery with bunk raws.

Atleast that way, once you’ve had your stash of raws tested, you’re good to go in terms of dosing across the entire batch you brew.

I’m just a hobbyist so I’ll stick to the labs JP mentioned knowing…

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Getting some pip myself from Dimensions Test E, really miniscule amounts too (1.5iu).

Been reading some rumblings online about pip relating specifically to enanthate raws, but who knows.

Will be switching over to Cypionate in the next few days. Fuck having PIP on a cruise 😀

I think it would be a bit of a gamble/guessing game throwing in Proviron to help manage the estro from the dbol?

If you’re set on running the dbol but are susceptible or concerned about gyno, then I’d consider running some novadex alongside it. Maybe 10mg moving to 20mg if you start to feel some nipple issues.

You’d still get the estrogenic…

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It’s looking like I need to go on a short course of corticosteroids to clear up a skin condition.

I’m currently on a cruise and do aim to continue training throughout – most likely with reduced strength.

Is muscle atrophy a real concern with corticosteroids or does that only real relate to longterm use?

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Seems to be a lot of shit around at the moment. Getting bloods and going off “feel” and progress seems to be more reliable IMO than getting gear tested.

How do you do the testing?

You can’t send every vial you plan to use to be tested, so you’re still hoping the rest of the non-tested vials are part of the same batch as the one sent for…

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Great shout JP, thankyou

Hopefully not against forum rules?

Noticed there’s a dedicated Dimension Labs website popping up in Google searches now.

Looks relatively new and has no eroids reviews (even though it does link to a profile).

Anyone know if this is legit and the lab now sell direct? Appears to have a full product catalogue with imagery which does add a bit… Read more

Hacks and Vsquats don’t play nice with my knees – I can never seem to get a comfortable setup on them. I always feel like my feet need to be positioned way over the top of the foot plate.

Pendulums feel different, I can feel the load landing right across my quads. So right now I’m just hammering away on those and leg press to try bring my…

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Hi Paul, just putting together my own upper/lower plan as I think it’s time to move over from Full Body work.

Just wondered if you could clarify the rep schemes you use for the heavy vs lighter sets.

So on heavy push you’d do 2x sets 6-9 reps.

Then on the lighter pull sets you’d do 2x sets 10-15reps?

Thanks!

Noticed no difference between the esters when pinned daily.

I have in the past started a cycle with NPP and then switched to Deca when oil/volume cost became prohibitive.

If it’s your first time using Nandrolone then may be best to go with NPP just to see how you get on, then you can dump it quick if sides arise.

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Always on the lookout for new Pro/Fat snack and meal suggestions?

Aside from the staples like eggs/egg whites/greek yog/peanut butter?

I prefer to have profat meals for first and last meal of the day and I always find them a bit tricky to prep in advance (prefer to have anything egg related fresh) so Fage yoghurt tends to be my goto.

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Been tapering up for a while now really slow 20mcg increases.

But unlike previous clen runs, these seem pretty underdosed?

First few weeks of 20mcg to 40mcg were as expected. But its like half the tub is bunk lol.

I know the shakes subside but I’ve always got them from previous runs when bumping the dose.

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Just looking ahead to swtich up from Full Body training EoD.

Been running this setup for a while now and feel I need a bit more volume for my legs. They just dont seem to respond like upper body does.

The EoD (every other day) training setup seems to suit me well. I’m always nice and fresh for each session.

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Fairly certain I’ve got stung with some fake Norditropin, but just wondered if there’s a 0.1% chance that this type of pharma HGH causes some localised irritation?

I should have known better as the price was too good to be true – but I’ve trusted the source for years so it is what it is.

Have used legit Genotropins and Lilly’s from Turkey and…

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You’re a star. Thankyou for the help – much appreciated!

Awesome thanks Roy! High days aren’t something I’ve ever really used before.

Whats your general rule of thumb for these in terms of frequency and carb totals?

Plan is to make it through the next 6 weeks without straying off plan. But could be a useful tool if fatloss jumps too far ahead.

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Hi guys

I started a 12 week minicut early September which I’m not about half way through.

Starting weight was 219lbs and currently 200lbs as of this morning.

Training day: 250g P – 260g C – trace fats
Rest Days: 250g P – 120g C – trace fats

210mg Test
210mg Deca
420mg Primo

40mcg clen
40mg anavar PWO

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Anecdotally, switching to ED pinning (if this is steroid/hormone induced acne) had a huge effect on my skin quality.

Something to consider.

Microdosing ED with slin pins was one of the best decisions I ever made when it came to gear use.

There’s a little bit more Sunday evening ‘admin’ involved prepping them for the week. But it’s a small price to pay imo. Stored back in the plastic sleeves then in a metal tin. Pin on an evening after brushing my teeth.

You will need more sites…

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Thank you so much for the reply Hilly!

Before I swapped the orals and added YOH I was stuck on 210lbs, so thought I’d shake things up aha.

My main worry is have I hit a brick wall with dropping calories too low, too soon. Will fatigue/training just keep spiralling?

If so, do I just accept that as part of the cut or are there options like a…

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Hello guys! Been a few years now since I was on the forums here but great to be back.

I don’t compete but have been following the TrainedbyJP ethos of training for a good few years now. I started lifting a while ago on a powerlifting linear progression (Greyskull LP) training routine and got the bug for low volume high intensity work sets.

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