I get what you are saying but when I dosed test c eod at 29mg a day and still got it i just gave up was the acne terrible at that? No! But when I can get less acne from 600npp then 80mg test c then I may aswell just no use test its shit (for me) but then guess what I do coke on a night out it makes me want to eat and go sleep? Point is im a… Read more

Jordan does not get acne from testosterone o do I’m also not jordan.

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There is a reason why Jordan doesn’t do it anymore, he’s tried it ( if it was goat …. He would continue to run it[/quote]

Mate honestly try it. I cannot make anyone understand until they try it its the goat. Imo nandrolone was made to be used alone.

Or has anyone else done this nandrolone base with other added anabolics? Just drys me out and makes my tdee go mental its seriously fucking underrated test did nothing but give me greasy acne didant even gain much on it.

I know a few of you have done it but who still does it? I honestly dont think I’ll every go back to anything with a test base toyed with the idea of ment base but npp solo had been the most given lean asf strong asf no sides really just works and gives me way less shit then test? I cant be the only one this cycle works for?

Everyday with acetate

Steps are king! If ypu do that meany remove cardio it serves no purpose here!

Well that cleard that one up pretty quick cheers guys.

Guys this may have been covered so apologies if it has (i did try a search here) to no avail.

Anyway what is the science behind tren hex being much more superior to tren E and tren A in regards to the results/side effects ratio being much better someone very clever here must have a answer on this?

Hi guys for those engaged in the upper lower routine where do you all structure rest days?

Ive always been a very strong mind set thankfully not much effects me mentally or maybe its more luck i dont know thanks for your input.

The king has spoken not once but twice!! any back lash from the gym rats ill jhst be like (bro jp said its fine) 😂😂😂

Cheers mate appreciate it

First of everyone sorry for the 2nd post this week it probably seems like excessive over thinking but im being told by everyone and there cats and dogs you cannot mix npp and tren ace? Why the fuck not? And if this is a legitimate thing then i guess im about to learn some more. Thanks in advance

Thats exactly what i plan to do mate 10mg a day drop fast if dislike food is on point gettibg leaner and leaner on 3k cals and steps are around 15k a day loving it atm so adding tren a to npp is ok? Doihg vit k2 magnesium taurate copper zinc and vit e for cardiovascular health too and recednt echo said my heartwas perfect no wall thicknessno…

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Not tried micro dosing mate no

Ngl hilly i like how testosteronefeels more so but just dont like the oily skin and cystic acne i get

Ypud think right bit no dht or estrogen so unlikelya acnr risk.

Evening everyone I’ve been cutting fat for 10 weeks now food stayed the same at 3k calories a day the whole 10 weeks and I’ve just increased steps and movement I’ll attach before and recent pics down below.

I always just cycle npp 100mg eod but I’m wondering if adding a low dose (30-60mg of tren e or a per week on top will add a unique look on…

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500g white potato 220g ribeye steak and either a handful of cabbage or tomato’s for breakfast.

Sweet potato green beans chicken thighs for meal 2

white rice eith chia seeds in and mince beef for mesl 3 then pre bed bowl of oats. Hitting around 4k cals a day with these foods

Npp is more androgenic then deca due to its faster peak and it is also less estrogenic i find its almost like tren lite if you want a funny term for it

You are an absolute legend mate ive just screen shotted this and will go from there once I’ve bleed this out push pull legs but thats a year or so off yet

I may add im 29 getting abit pissed of with my lack of progress for age due to on and off life style with it this time I want to lock in and grow!! I always stay lean as i just dont get fat easily but im small im 5ft5 and 75kg fasted around 14%fat atm

Hi all im implementing upper lower as it seems to make sense from those that have explained it in varies videos i just wanted to run a few questions by a few of you.

Is this lay out right and am I doing anything wrong that sticks out in particular?

Upper tonight went as follows (back focused?

Face pulls 2x 12 reps

Tbar rows 2×12 reps

Dumbell rows…

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For me testosterone at even 150mg a week spread out into 3 jabs causes major cystic acne to the point I think I’m just allergic to testosterone as even natty test levels caused me issues. Dbol doesn’t even cause me acne yet test does so from a digestive health skin health hair health but still get big and strong as I can standpoint nandrolone… Read more

I have done 4 cycles of npp only sex drive through the roof mental well being through the roof energy through the roof no anxiety no mood issues skin and hair amazing best cycle so far for me.

Take npp on its own and you’ll avoid gyno and acne

Yeah let’s not do

That lol he will just feel like pure shit , if someone is advanced like…

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Why? Legit explain the reasons behind why thats not a good idea nandrolone solo cycles are amazing and taeian clark has had amazing results with a few big names doing just that
Yeah let’s not do
That lol he will just feel like pure shit , if someone is advanced like really advanced don’t advise that shit bud[/quote]

Take npp on its own and you’ll avoid gyno and acne

Stay the fuck away from accutane that stuff chemically castratedme for about 4 years i was lucky to semi (no pun intended) recover
Not even accutane?[/quote]

Stay the fuck away from accutane that stuff chemically castratedme for about 4 years i was lucky to semi (no pun intended) recover
Not even accutane?[/quote]

Nothing and i mean nothing will sort this bud you just have to ride it out once it hits u are fucked only thing I could suggest to lessen the burden is cut carbs and just go carnivor as its effect on inflammation does help skin ghkcu and bpc 157 and tb500 will also aid this but you’ll break out about 50ish times before they start to calm down…

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Kuba i mean no disrespect but it does not aromatise loads on its own as seen in studies although meany of the studies did utilise a much lower dose then we would use trestolonedoes not aromatise “loads” its conversion is into 7-alpha-methylesteodial which is equivalent potent but in the small amount its produced in there was a pull out on…

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Jordan old post but can I ask when you used trestalone i belive it was 3 times you tried did you ever try trestolone on its own without anything else?

Could not disagree more I’m on 5k a day atm and 60mg dbol only test is shit so never use it only injectable I’ll touch is npp ran solo that’s great but dbol is easily my favourite feel fucking great on it and full strong and still lean asf maybe the 600mg of tudca with it is why im ok i dunno

Hi mate can I offer some personal advice here I’ve suffered this injury in my lower back about 3 times now the last time sent me to the floor immediately it was absolutely horrible.

Now at this point it was obvious that not only did I need to get well as fast as possible but also figure out why I kept throwing it out. For me deadlifts just…

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Crazy amount of negative experiences with ment on this forum reddit has you belive its the best thing since sliced bread lmao what was your experience with it bud.

Npp is my go too tbh use it solo.

For those of you who have got on ok with either compound which one are you picking in the off season?

Ment has its own estrogen base tren would have to be on top of testosterone so which one would you guys rate out of experience of both?

Cheers hilly I use nandrolone solo so based of my experience I’d say it’s a very slow gainer but hear what you are saying 100% I would like to try either ment or tren just for experience.

Hi everyone I’m going to assume most of you here can answer me this. So thanks in advance.

If you run a low dose say 50-75mg tren a or e a week with a sufficient estrogen base either test or low dose dbol can tren really make a difference in how much one grows I feel like people down play how effective it is my cousin for example has done test…

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Hey guys thanks for the reply and yes I feel like I need them rest days myself I just burn out quick but when I’m their I make it count so yes seem to be progressing again not back on cycle yet so can’t compare to the progress I was making before but the rest days are definitely needed atleast for me. Will post full split tomorrow.

Evening all ill make this as detailed as I can really have started to nail food again and training very intense when in the gym focusing on progressive overload again and emaculate form probably leaving 1-2 reps in reserve with around 2 main sets per exercise and around 6-7 sets a week on each body part so for example

Chest ill start on…

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You won’t get e2 issues with nandrolone only meany use it for that reason and its anti androgenic effects in skin and hair tissue

Wow man say no more

Yeah im over the idea aftwr these replies i kind of suspected it wouod be a bad one just alwasy good to here whats those that have used it have to say cowidering it was designedto be used at 1mg a day for trt and then abandoned says it all.

Can i ask and for anyoneelse reading on this cycle u used ment what dose was it and did you run test along side it.

Good point im just fantasing about the next new thing ill pin some npp haha

Jesus christ man well thay safeky put them 2 bottles of dunning labs ment a to bed!!! FUCK THAT sounds like its worse then tren.