[Kuba]

I see there is no mention of the veggies and sauerkraut etc as before. Have you just not listed them or have you removed them from diet. Are you taking any supps for fibre.

I just haven’t listed them, I find I get enough fibre from my carb sources buddy. No supps for fibre no need. In prep as food gets lower I have more greens. Now salads and sourcrout is in when I want it but not listed.

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[Kuba]

You’ll blow the fuck up with that stack and after rest/cruise ????????????????

Game time brother.

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Hi Kuba, do you add the T4 while on GH as a precaution? or is this because blood results have shown you need it?

Thanks

I wouldn’t take gh without t4 it’s precaution which is very much needed imo

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Ok mate and why T4 over T3? Appreciate the fast response ????????[/quote]

Your thyroid gland secretes two hormones that are going to be of primary importance in understanding Thyroid/GH interaction. The first is thyroxine (T4) and the second is triiodothyronine (T3). T3 is frequently considered the physiologically active hormone, and consequently the one on which most athletes and bodybuilders focus their energies on. T4, on the other hand, is converted in peripheral tissue into T3 by the enzymes in the deiodinase group, of which there are three types- the three iodothyronine deiodinase either catalyze the initiation (D1, D2) or termination (D3) of thyroid hormone effects. The majority of the body’s T3 (about 80%) comes from this conversion via the first two types of deiodinase, while conversion to an inactive state is accomplished by the third type.

 It’s important to note that not all of the body’s T4 is converted to T3, however- some remains unconverted. The secretion of T4 is under the control of Thyroid Stimulating Hormone (TSH) which is produced by the pituitary gland. TSH secretion is in turn controlled through release of Thyrotropin Releasing Hormone which is produced in your hypothalamus. So, when T3 levels go up, TSH secretion is suppressed, due to the body’s self regulatory system known as the “negative feedback loop” . This is also the mechanism whereby exogenous thyroid hormone suppresses natural thyroid hormone production. However, it should be noted that thyroid stimulating hormone (like all other hormones) can not work in a vacuum. TSH also requires the presence of Insulin or Insulin-like Growth Factor to stimulate thyroid function (1) When thyroid hormone is present without either insulin or IGF-1, it has no physiological effect (ibid).

 Most people think that T3 is just a physiologically active hormone that regulates bodyfat setpoint and has some minor anabolic effects, but in actuality, in some cases of delayed growth in children, T3 is actually too low, while GH levels are normal, and this has a growth limiting effect on several tissues (2) This could be due to T3’s ability to stimulate the proliferation of IGF-1 mRNA in many tissues (which would, of course, be anabolic), or it could be due to the synergistic effect T3 has on GH, specifically on regulation of the growth hormone gene. Although it is largely overlooked in the world of performance enhancement, regulation of the growth hormone response is predominantly determined by positive control of growth hormone gene transcription which is proportional to the concentration of thyroid hormone-receptor complexes, which are influenced by T3 levels. (3)

Pretty much explanation of why I run t4 alongside gh ALWAYS both work in synergy.

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Checked in with Jordan this am, 112kg just over 5 weeks into the cruise! Things are looking okay so I’m very excited to get back to work.

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How long do you guys normally cruise for? [/quote]

7.5 weeks this time buddy. So quite some time…. I’m very ready to get back on cycle now brother!

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When you go on cruise do you lower your calories? Still stay in a surplus but not pushing a the same amount of calories like when you blast? Or do u go into maintenance calorie? [/quote]

My calories maintained at the same amount where I left off. I’ve resumed on cycle with same calories just slight extra expenditure and different food choices.

This next 4 weeks I will harden up drop some shit then we push up hard!

Cruise shouldn’t change in my mind I’m
Still getting after it. DRUGS DO NOT REFLECT MY GOALS MY GOALS REMAIN THE SAME (progress motherfuckers)

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[Kuba]

Hi Kuba, do you add the T4 while on GH as a precaution? or is this because blood results have shown you need it?

Thanks

I wouldn’t take gh without t4 it’s precaution which is very much needed imo

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Sorry, I wrote my last question before Kuba’s last answer is updated

Don’t worry man that’s what I’m here for lol ask and il answer… although the question has been answered for me hehe

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[Kuba]

no GH and Insulin?

Yes
Gh
8 iu training day
Slin 2 iu am 6 iu pre 12 iu post 🙂

Gh rest day 4 iu pre bed

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[Kuba]

Is this your first time using Trestolone ?

I’ve had it in 2017 in a blend called shredded mass, I had it pre workout it was craaaaazy so I’m very excited ????

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Alsoooo the cycle

Offseason cycle 21/08/2019-

750 test e

600eq

700dhb
(4 weeks on 500 mg tren and 200mg trestalone ) once done drop tren add npp

200mg trestelone

700npp

25 mg aromasin eod pre bed

25 mg proviron am

100 mcg t4 am

20 mg cardarine am

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Why t4 and not t3?[/quote]

To accompany my gh use. Don’t feel I need t3 at moment. It’s t4 you need whilst on gh bud.

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[Kuba]

Alsoooo the cycle

Offseason cycle 21/08/2019-

750 test e
600eq
700dhb

(4 weeks on 500 mg tren and 200mg trestalone ) once done drop tren add npp

200mg trestelone
700npp

25 mg aromasin eod pre bed
25 mg proviron am
100 mcg t4 am
20 mg cardarine am

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Offseason diet 21/08/2019

Diet update

Training day diet

M1
1 whole egg 3 egg whites
40 g whey isolate
100g cream of rice
100g berries

P 55g
C 90
F 5

M2 pre
Extra salt here
200g turkey
100g rice
10g mps max
200g fruit

P 50
C 100
F 0

Intra
50g mps max
20g carb from sustain intra (30 back & leg day)
10g glutamine

C 20
P 40
F 0

M3 post
Extra salt here
75g whey isolate
150g rice based cereal
1 bagel + jam

P 80
C 190
F 0

M4 post post
200g chicken
1 scoop of mps max
100g rice or 400g potatoes
P 50
C 80
F 5

M5
200g turkey
2 wholemeal pittas

P 40
C 60
F 5

M6
300g tuna
15 g fat from avocado or almond butter
P 60
C 0
F 15

M7
75g whey iso
20g almond butter

P 60
C 0
F 10

P 435
C 540
F 45

Rest day

Rest day diet

M1
300g chicken
5g oil
P 60
C 0
F 5

M2
500g cottage cheese
2 whole eggs 2 whites
p 70
F 40
0c

M3
50g whey
20g almond butter
200g fat free yoghurt
100g fruit

60 p
10 c
10 f

M4
300g salmon farmed
60p
40f
0c

M5
75g whey
90g oats
100g fruit

60p
70c
0f

M6

200g white meat or fish
120g rice or 500g potatoes
5g oil
200g fruit

40p
120c
5f

P350
C 200
F 100

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[Kuba]

Last days rest, I’m very ready to get back to
It now. Really really missed it. Will do my diet and cycle and send it over to Jordan and we will then make it perfect and ready to rock.

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Hey Kuba! How many carbs do you consume on rest day and if you are working physical job and you are all day on your feet would you add more carbs or just pump up fat and keep carbs to last 2 meals ? Thanks man

On rest day it’s 220 at the moment.

I would add calories from fats, you get your energy from calories not just purely carbs. Fats are also a great source.

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Good to hear your honest experience with that Kuba, I think we are all guilty of not wanting to take time off due to the love for training! It is a tough mental battle to get over that less can be more sometimes!

It’s a mistake for sure, I won’t be maki it again!

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Switching cardio won’t help or make difference buddy at all. You simply have to drop all the bodyfat and get in shape to bring out the areas you mentioned. It’s really just a case of getting super lean and that can be done on any cardio

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