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I agree you don’t want to ignore the pain.

I find adding some tiger balm and sleeves 30

Mins pre session helps getting them going

Higher rep ranges – correct form and not doing any movements that cause too much irritation is key

Thank you Meg ? I’ll give that a try also

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Fully agree with all of the above.

I have had knee pain for a long time and have gotten my sessions to be pain free now but to do so it means no squatting of any type and this has not effected my quad development IMO. It could be argued it may of slowed it down but even so not as much as blowing my knees out.

I have to do a ham exercise first and extensions.

I then will do either a heavy leg press or 1 leg press – Rep range from 8-20 is no issues once I have done the first 2 exercises

Then to another press variation

then ham and finish with adductors.

At times I will do adductors first.

Then you can use bands etc on the leg presses for variation

Thanks Hilly,

With Sas suggestion of high reps (eg 50reps) and as the sets go on come down some reps, would you say the volume would have to adjust from what I’m
Doing currently (5sets)?

I have a few different leg press versions at my gym: Atlantis squat leg press, 45 degree press, seated press and verticals press. So I should be able to work around that.

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Hi mate

I very much agree with Sas, I’m in a similar position, lockdown gave me access only to free weights and my knees are still paying the price.

I personally have cut all squat variations out, I have two different bilateral leg press movements (one banded which I do first to minimise stress in the hole) and a unilateral banded variation also.

After a few months of this I’m still in the 15+ on the straight weight variation, but am able to introduce some more loaded sets on the banded presses.

“Optimal” is only optimal if you can do it. Get your knees in a good spot rather than trying to hero through it mate

Thank Bud, all the advise is really appreciated.

I will do the higher reps stuff with leg press versions and single leg stuff then for awhile.

My only concern was I’m light around the knees anyway (but I think that comes down to lack of tissue there to begin with) and was concerned my legs would go down in size at first.

I had a plan from Jordon and it has 5 sets of total quad work. If I’m upping my reps (which would increase volume) should I drop the sets some or leave it there?

Leg extension hurt too even with the higher reps but I can manage. My weight have come down in everything recently which is soul destroying

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Thank all, currently i do;

2 sets calves 12-15
2 sets adductors 8-10reps £ 12-15 reps
2 sets Hamstrings 8-10 & 12-15 reps
1 set Leg ext 20-30 reps
2 sets leg press 15-20 & 9-10
2 sets squat version 12-15 & 9-10

How about for quads I do

Leg ext 20-30, 12-15
Leg press 30-50, 15-20
Squat version 20-30 & 15-20

Any thoughts please, would be great up. My leg size is suffering now and my knees feel old lol

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Thank you all, this helps me solidify what I’m doing is the right thing.

I had a plan form Jordan and have been following it exactly with nothing added, except another set of bicep’s.

Not sure if or when I need to add volume or just keep it the same.

If it’s not broke , don’t fix it!!! Carry on as ..:)[/quote]
Thanks mate, will do ?

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Thank you all, this helps me solidify what I’m doing is the right thing.

I had a plan form Jordan and have been following it exactly with nothing added, except another set of bicep’s.

Not sure if or when I need to add volume or just keep it the same.

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Some great advice from all of you, thank you. Sometimes this training world makes you over think everything, but always comes back to the fundamentals. Thanks again, the money will stay in my account!

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I’ll leave this incredible post here

Sums it up pretty well.

I saw Dante’s post and that what sparked it for me. There’s some great points raised by all here, just wanted to hear some educated views on it for discussion. Great stuff to make us think.

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No it’s defo time to press first now ? , great work

Thanks Jordan ? I’m loving this!!!!! [/quote]
Sorry, shall I add the pec fly back after the presses and before triceps?

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No it’s defo time to press first now ? , great work

Thanks Jordan ? I’m loving this!!!!!

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Literally just add more if you feel it will help , a set of curls isn’t going to touch recovery .

Thanks Jordan, I’ll add another 1-2 sets. I feel that would do it!

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That’s what I did as explained above.

I would recommend doing some research and making your own conclusion but this worked for me

Hi Hilly,

Just reading the old posts on BPC and just wondered if you had some advise.

My tendons/ligaments around my knees are sore after squat variations like hack squats when in the hole. I have a training program from JP and adhearing to it fully and will look at perhaps doing the higher rep set before the loading set or just keeping the reps higher.

But I’m looking at trying BPC in my quads also.

I noticed its mentioned a dose of 1mg for 4 weeks, but would that be 500mcg per quad or 1mg per quad?

Any thoughts are greatly appreciated

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Thanks All for the advise,

I didn’t want to deviate from JPs plan as im putting in the work on this. Legs have always been a very stubborn body part to grow and the knees have been a limiting factor because of this.

I will try both suggestions and see how it goes. All I care about is quad growth but want my knees intact to do so! Lol

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Thanks All! Do you know of anyone who does one off consultation on this? I reached out to JP but o believe he has stopped this for now.

Hilly, I will take a look at the threads, I’ve searched ‘Deca’ but not found much of use yet, il keep looking though.

Thanks again all

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Hi bud – Hilly And JP BOTH did high decca cycles a while back – go have a search in their logs and you will find it.

I MYSELF ran 750 decca and 250 test last year and i felt brilliant.

i really rate a High decca low test cycle.

Hi Riz, thanks for the reply mate. I’ll take a look into the logs, sounds like a viable option!