[andrew]

I find it very hard to read books with my dyslexia, so I tend to listen to videos on YouTube or I’m going through the educational series that Jordon has done atm which is helping me a lot and I’m finding it very interesting ????

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Jadekelsie

Certainly is great. I definitely recommend audible, 7.99 a month for a book, almost all the main titles on amazon, including very good bodybuilding related ones, 2 which I have attached, would highly recommend them as a books and in audio format. Audio books are great for cardio

Andrew

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[andrew]

Thought I would add a book I have just bought and ready getting stuck in, read it many years ago but I have passed my copy to a friend and never got it back, so many sections I had entirely forgotten about not just training, such as Psychology, Potential, and goal setting to name a few.

Please add any books or insights you have had recently. If you want any topics covering please let me know

Regards – Andrew

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[andrew]

MK has a long half-life so daily or eod dosing will make little difference depending on your training spilt, personally I would opt for every day dosing due to consistent blood levels, with the exception of days that I am not training on. The continual use (as in every day ) is what results in the accumulation of IGF. But like Hilly said this is will not provide the same synergy that you get with GH.

So you have your cycle os Test/NPP with MK677, and a small starting dose of insulin post-workout. When funds allow I would purchase (even a small amount) of GH, and then have GH+Insulin starting PWO on days of weak body part training. However, GH timings can be disputed.

Hope this helps

Please let me know if you have any other questions

Regards – Andrew

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[andrew]

Hi Richard and Jonay,
Can I ask is there anything in particular you would like to read article/s about ? or you would just like the article section to be updated regularly

Regards – Andrew

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[andrew]

It comparing apples and oranges , although similar in some aspects, they differ in others, like I mentioned in my previous post they both act differently. What do you mean DHT perspective, you do know you can buy pure DHT as the hormone itself , but how would this be of any help to you? Do you get where I’m coming from bud

Hope this helps

Andrew

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[andrew]

Unfortunately it’s very difficult as hilly says to provide information on what is the best regarding insulin due to it’s vary use/s and associated dangers.
Generally speaking (which is very dangerous online with insulin) IMO (this is only one way) you fit the insulin to the diet , potentially excluding peri-workout period, not diet to the insulin, at least initially, so you don’t want to add 4iu of insulin to meals 2 and 3 and have to create the necessary glycemic load just to match a number. It needs to be the other way around, you have meals 2 and 3 , that have x amount carbs, therefore x amount insulin may increase nutrient uptake, taking into account BG readings. But that is only one way of looking at insulin use.
You need to find someone personally or ideally educate to the extent whereby you know how food consumption affects your BG that would be a good starting point
Are you using GH or any GH stimulating compounds ?

Hey buddy, thanks for the Informatically answer.
No I would not run a gh or a gh compound. Just test npp and one shot slin post workout. Gh is far to expensive for me at me moment, that’s the only reason why.
Therefore I thought slin can be productive for faster nutrient uptake, regeneration ect[/quote]
You’re welcome

PWO shot of insulin should increase nutrient uptake, obviously at this time I would recommend fast acting insulin, EAA’s HBCD (highly branched cyclic dextrin) Creatine combo , this is where things get complicated as dosage and timing protocols are highly individualistic – and on a brief post it’s difficult and dangerous to be prescriptive when I don’t know you personally.

To find out I would imagine some people have a coach nowadays but IMO is best to be in control especially at this point, so reading how it will effect you, getting a blood glucose monitor, getting your HbA1c tested to ensure you are not causing damage to pancreatic function and understanding how your body reacts to certain carbohydrates and small doses of insulin , will help you map out an effective protocol.

I think you should think about some form of GH stimulation, which is not very expensive at all, mk677 20/25mg pre bed, you can see in the literature how effective it is at increasing GH/IGF. Test, NPP, MK677 and then a small dose of pwo insulin will work great. Don’t initially take MK and insulin together as GH affects insulin and will complicate things.

Have a read of the attached articles and consider what I have mentioned about insulin

Hope this helps

Any more questions please ask away

Regards – Andrew

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[andrew]

Hi Richard,

I agree I do like the articles. Please see my lock down reading list a few posts down, I have put and plan on continuing to add other books almost daily which I have read and what I am going to read to collate mine and others knowledge. I have many articles/ studies bookmarked and saved. If there is anything in particular you would like covering I am more than happy to share all I have.

Many of their strategies are covered in their logs, the information is not provided in such an explicit manner as an article but it is there, as you said I think the education section is second to none and is such a great addition to an already great service.

Hope I can be of some help

Regards – Andrew

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[andrew]

The higher the test dose the higher the chances are of building and maintaining more tissue, however, there is a limit. I would say for a large professional bodybuilder there would be no need to go over 1g of test per week, the optimal being 500 to 750mg per week to avoid unnecessary side effects. Testosterone is the most effective compound for building tissue ad all of the other compounds are derived from testosterone.

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Why would you say test is the best for building tissue? Doesn’t it. Have a ratio of 100:100 where something like tren is 500:500? Wouldn’t tren be way better at building tissue or even nandrolone?? [/quote]
Anabolic and androgenic ratios are confusing when relating them to real world results. To cut a long story short, Like the lads said its very individual, some like high test, comparatively I have also heard of those running a base of deca/winstrol
To give you the longer story for those interested, AAS studies (with the exception of a few) are unethical and therefore many of such ratio information is derived from mice muscle analysis, and therefore do not provide an exact comparison to humans.
Take for example methytrienlone, essentially oral trenbolone, well add a 7-alpha methyl group and you have the lesser-known dimethtrienolone with an anabolic: androgenic ratio of both exceeding 10,000. How does that relate to testosterone (100:100)? It does not.
You mentioned Trenbolone with a 500:500 and testosterone at 100:100 which is correct, but in the real world this does not mean a cycle of 100mg of tren a week is equal to cycle of 500mg of testosterone. We all know the testosterone would come out on top. Many other examples, Winstrol with anabolic ratio of 320, but in the real world in term of actual anabolic gains is not 3.2 times stronger. Again, this is due to mice data.
This suggests that testosterone may have a separate properties which result in anabolism. See Fig1*, provides some pathways of anabolism
‘The mechanism of anabolic action due to the administration of anabolic/androgenic steroids. AAS causes not only direct stimulation of the androgen receptor, but also supports muscle growth by increasing the levels of free androgens, increasing androgen receptor density, inhibiting corticosteroid action, increasing GH/IGF-1, and suppressing IGF-1 binding proteins’*.
With Testosterone a strong supporting argument has been provided in each area in the referenced text*, but is far too exhaustive to discuss each area in a post, but makes very interesting reading, and these pathways are certainly not limited to testosterone, but I am just giving you an example.
Now again, this discussion provided on testosterone is scientific, it provides some possible mechanism of why testosterone is rather effective in the male body at building muscle, and also noting that AA ratios are generally based on rat data.
Hope this clarifies a few things
Regards – Andrew
Reference
William Llewellyn’s Anabolic 9th Edition  
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That’s some great knowledge ???? what do you think and equal dosage of tren to test would be taking into account the strength of the two compounds? Like 300mg of tren would be equal to how much rest in your opinion??[/quote]
You’re most welcome, I completely forgot to add the fig1 I have referenced you, I have edited the post, you might find it helpful
Very difficult to compare, almost apples and oranges, if we were to look at an hypothetical scenario of 2 twins and both did a 12 cycle and after the 12 week mark we give the testosterone enough time to clear to reduce intramuscular water retention that would appear as muscle on cycle, and you would normally never run tren alone which is why one reason such comparison is rather complicated, but to throw a ball park figure at you which truthfully do to aforementioned reason is guessing to quite an extent, 250mg of testosterone maybe equivalent to 150, if taken alone, but most of know the theory of synergy between steroids , so to almost contradict what I have just said if i ran 250 test and 150 tren, then now those figures no longer stand as I think that cycle would be more effective than 500mg test (dependant on experience), so now it becomes a sliding scale me, If you get, so as you can see very complicated to compare. Many will wildly disagree with numbers, and please don’t quote any of my knowledge to be based on the above paragraph, that’s purely an hypothetical scenario
What would be far easier to do is when you come to run tren next tag me in a thread and I shall come and tell you what I think may have some equivalence in that given scenario
Glad I can be of some help
Regards – Andrew [/quote]

Ya I get what you are saying… what exactly is it about tren that increases IGF1  or sensitizes is to it more than any other compound?[/quote]

Ok, so the science for this is largely based in cow data, so read into it what you will. The YouTube fitness community like to tout Tren as having this affect on IGF and IGF transporting proteins. If you want the benefits of IGF , then its GH + Insulin is the go to, or go for real IGF. Another thing (and this is even indicated with the use of e2 in the studies) is that e2 is important to support IGF production, another reason why testosterone should be ran (even if only for this e2 production) in a cycle.
E2 and IGF
‘There is increasing evidence that estradiol and insulin-like growth factor-I (IGF-I) act through a complex cross-talk mechanism to stimulate the proliferation of cells. The emerging model of cross-talk suggests that estradiol regulates the expression of IGF-I and the IGF receptor'(1)
But to answer you question of tren and IGF and IGF sensitivity.
So sensitivity wise IGFBP-3 which is the main IGF transport protein in the bloodstream, hence the suggestion of IGF sensitivity supplied by tren.
E2 when combined tren stimulated proliferation of cultured muscle satellite cells to a greater extent. Trenbolone acetate+E2 increased serum concentrations of both IGF-I and IGFBP-3. Additionally, implantation increased mitogenic activity. These alterations may be partially responsible for the positive effects of TBA+E2 implants on feedlot performance and rate of protein accretion in steers. (2)
So its all just a guess from cattle data. Might be transferable, but who knows. Like I said earlier, if you want IGF, then look to gh/insulin combo or IGF. People talking of tren and IGF are punting and want to look they have an angle no one else does IMO but that cynical opinion, that’s me just thinking of these YouTube guys like ‘Dr’ Tony Huge, but if anyone here as any solid evidence I will gladly change my mind.
These sort of things just complicate what works for the average bodybuilder IMO, who needs simple, clear straight forward advice based upon well supported evidence.
Hope this helps
Any other questions please ask
Regards – Andrew
Reference
1-Mary Beth Martin, Adriana Stoica, Insulin-Like Growth Factor-I and Estrogen Interactions in Breast Cancer, The Journal of Nutrition, Volume 132, Issue 12, December 2002, Pages 3799S–3801S, https://doi.org/10.1093/jn/132.12.3799S
2- Stimulation of circulating insulin-like growth factor I (IGF-I) and insulin-like growth factor binding proteins (IGFBP) due to administration of a combined trenbolone acetate and estradiol implant in feedlot

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[andrew]

Yep 200 mast p with 50mg will work work nicely, if it works well then add a small amount 25-50mg per week into the show, are you running any orals ?

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[andrew]

Possibly , Yohimbine is alpha-2 adrenergic antagonist but also can be seen interact with 5HT(hydroxy-tryptamine)variants as an antagonist in 5HT2A( many mental health meds surround this neurotransmitter) and a partial agonist in 5HT1A. SSRIs and particularly Sertraline work around inhibition and affinity to serotonin transporter (SERT).

So hypothetically worst case scenario yohimbine the alteration of serotonin and sertraline inhibits the breakdown of this serotonin. Causing serotonin syndrome, a life threatening condition where serotonin is too high. That is the risks, just so you know.

Now 75mg of sertraline is a relatively low dose and a moderate dose of yohimbine is unlikely to cause such aforementioned serious issues, but you need to be aware of there presence, should high levels of stimulation occur, as n high body temperature and agitation, not mild stimulation you would expect with some stims.

I personally have been on 200mg of sertraline combined with other serotonergic antidepressants, and antipsychotics, with ephedrine , ECA, modafinil (this is not a pissing contest, I just wanted to make you aware) and have been relatively fine, currently due to my high body weight I avoid pharmaceutical stims.

Hope this helps

Any other questions tag me in and I shall try my best to respond

Teagarden – Andrew

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[andrew]

I think in the order you have put things , I would probably suggest 25mg-50mg of Proviron daily, and you will quickly see how that effects you sex drive, but always be mindful that sex drive issues could be caused by whole range of issues, your not running any 19nors atm are you?

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[andrew]

You can have blood test done as previously mentioned , https://medichecks.com/products/growth-hormone-blood-test

You need to trust your sources judgment

Let’s say when it comes to the 36iu pens you mentioned, the flick on the side is not a sticker, but imbedded into the pen, the top plastic working mechanism is cut from clear edges, no cutting marks or little bits of plastic sticking out, all lot and dates matching, paper insert is thin-like bible paper. Sounds ridiculous I know, but a good source would know the smell of geno, so fakes would have to mimic all the things and blood test, unlikely. These are just a few things I know of geno, your coach should be able to identify legitimate GH if that’s what they can offer, but that’s between them and you

You gotta do you research, looking a comparative photos

Hope this helps

Regards – Andrew

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[andrew]

Difficult to pick one over the other

Proviron works well at SHBG reduction (not chemically reduced it’s just more competitive than testosterone) and increasing free testosterone. IMO It has quite an unique but important role is that it can negates the use of AI’s thus using Proviron can indirectly help maintain a healthy lipid profile, which is more so important when using orals. Good for sex drive and sperm motility if you ever are considering fertility. Almost is entirely devoid of anabolic capacity.

Masteron works similarly, but unlike Proviron provides some anabolic potential to a cycle. But IMO it can be used for cosmetic purposes. (I know some many argue that we do this for a cosmetic purpose or a lifestyle etc many viewpoints and I accept them all, ) when I say cosmetic I mean you take that drug and it has a direct cosmetic impact, so when you are lean and you introduce Masteron it has notable ‘hardening’ effect on the physique quite dramatically, hence its use precontest.

Dosage wise depends on which you choose, Proviron up to 75-100mg ed, Mast p 300mg pw. If you can’t afford both then if necessary I would split the dosages

Hope this helps

Regards – Andrew

Disclaimer: Please note that the information provided in my post is for entertainment purposes only. I would vehemently recommend you always do your own research and entirely understand the ramifications of your actions. Always seek medical advice before you make a choice that will impact your health.

[andrew]

The higher the test dose the higher the chances are of building and maintaining more tissue, however, there is a limit. I would say for a large professional bodybuilder there would be no need to go over 1g of test per week, the optimal being 500 to 750mg per week to avoid unnecessary side effects. Testosterone is the most effective compound for building tissue ad all of the other compounds are derived from testosterone.

_________________________________________

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http://www.trainedbyjp-nutrition.com – highest quality supplements on the market.

Why would you say test is the best for building tissue? Doesn’t it. Have a ratio of 100:100 where something like tren is 500:500? Wouldn’t tren be way better at building tissue or even nandrolone?? [/quote]
Anabolic and androgenic ratios are confusing when relating them to real world results. To cut a long story short, Like the lads said its very individual, some like high test, comparatively I have also heard of those running a base of deca/winstrol
To give you the longer story for those interested, AAS studies (with the exception of a few) are unethical and therefore many of such ratio information is derived from mice muscle analysis, and therefore do not provide an exact comparison to humans.
Take for example methytrienlone, essentially oral trenbolone, well add a 7-alpha methyl group and you have the lesser-known dimethtrienolone with an anabolic: androgenic ratio of both exceeding 10,000. How does that relate to testosterone (100:100)? It does not.
You mentioned Trenbolone with a 500:500 and testosterone at 100:100 which is correct, but in the real world this does not mean a cycle of 100mg of tren a week is equal to cycle of 500mg of testosterone. We all know the testosterone would come out on top. Many other examples, Winstrol with anabolic ratio of 320, but in the real world in term of actual anabolic gains is not 3.2 times stronger. Again, this is due to mice data.
This suggests that testosterone may have a separate properties which result in anabolism. See Fig1*, provides some pathways of anabolism
‘The mechanism of anabolic action due to the administration of anabolic/androgenic steroids. AAS causes not only direct stimulation of the androgen receptor, but also supports muscle growth by increasing the levels of free androgens, increasing androgen receptor density, inhibiting corticosteroid action, increasing GH/IGF-1, and suppressing IGF-1 binding proteins’*.
With Testosterone a strong supporting argument has been provided in each area in the referenced text*, but is far too exhaustive to discuss each area in a post, but makes very interesting reading, and these pathways are certainly not limited to testosterone, but I am just giving you an example.
Now again, this discussion provided on testosterone is scientific, it provides some possible mechanism of why testosterone is rather effective in the male body at building muscle, and also noting that AA ratios are generally based on rat data.
Hope this clarifies a few things
Regards – Andrew
Reference
William Llewellyn’s Anabolic 9th Edition
[/quote]
That’s some great knowledge ???? what do you think and equal dosage of tren to test would be taking into account the strength of the two compounds? Like 300mg of tren would be equal to how much rest in your opinion??[/quote]
You’re most welcome, I completely forgot to add the fig1 I have referenced you, I have edited the post, you might find it helpful

Very difficult to compare, almost apples and oranges, if we were to look at an hypothetical scenario of 2 twins and both did a 12 cycle and after the 12 week mark we give the testosterone enough time to clear to reduce intramuscular water retention that would appear as muscle on cycle, and you would normally never run tren alone which is why one reason such comparison is rather complicated, but to throw a ball park figure at you which truthfully do to aforementioned reason is guessing to quite an extent, 250mg of testosterone maybe equivalent to 150, if taken alone, but most of know the theory of synergy between steroids , so to almost contradict what I have just said if i ran 250 test and 150 tren, then now those figures no longer stand as I think that cycle would be more effective than 500mg test (dependant on experience), so now it becomes a sliding scale me, If you get, so as you can see very complicated to compare. Many will wildly disagree with numbers, and please don’t quote any of my knowledge to be based on the above paragraph, that’s purely an hypothetical scenario

What would be far easier to do is when you come to run tren next tag me in a thread and I shall come and tell you what I think may have some equivalence in that given scenario

Glad I can be of some help

Regards – Andrew

Disclaimer: Please note that the information provided in my post is for entertainment purposes only. I would vehemently recommend you always do your own research and entirely understand the ramifications of your actions. Always seek medical advice before you make a choice that will impact your health.

[andrew]

If you have exhausted other main evidence based supplementation

look up laxogenin and arachadonic acid (X-factor not Animal test)

How far does your concept of ‘not assisted’ go, as there supplements that are gray area, is it health ? Competition? Etc

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