[andrew]

Thanks for the reply guy appreciate it. Sorry for my late reply

I have got a medichecks men’s hormone profile to do, so I shall see where that comes back at then look at my prescribing options

Thanks guys

Andrew

Disclaimer: Please note that the information provided in my post is for entertainment purposes only. I would vehemently recommend you always do your own research and entirely understand the ramifications of your actions. Always seek medical advice before you make a choice that will impact your health.

[andrew]

200mg of tren will definitely work, my first try I used 175mg tren e and it worked fantastic. Obviously choosing this option you are not cruising any longer, and you don’t want to get in a position where 250mg test e 200mg tren e becomes your baseline ‘cruise’, but if you want to do that be aware of the risk.

Anyway to answer q 200mg is more than sufficient for body composition and leaning

Regards – Andrew

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[andrew]

For what purpose? ‘Potentially’ it can increase the breakdown of e2 and reduce aromatisation, but to what end because you are natural. TBH I think it will make absolutely fuck all difference mate

Regards – Andrew

Disclaimer: Please note that the information provided in my post is for entertainment purposes only. I would vehemently recommend you always do your own research and entirely understand the ramifications of your actions. Always seek medical advice before you make a choice that will impact your health.

[andrew]

The higher the test dose the higher the chances are of building and maintaining more tissue, however, there is a limit. I would say for a large professional bodybuilder there would be no need to go over 1g of test per week, the optimal being 500 to 750mg per week to avoid unnecessary side effects. Testosterone is the most effective compound for building tissue ad all of the other compounds are derived from testosterone.

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Why would you say test is the best for building tissue? Doesn’t it. Have a ratio of 100:100 where something like tren is 500:500? Wouldn’t tren be way better at building tissue or even nandrolone?? [/quote]
Anabolic and androgenic ratios are confusing when relating them to real world results. To cut a long story short, Like the lads said its very individual, some like high test, comparatively I have also heard of those running a base of deca/winstrol

To give you the longer story for those interested, AAS studies (with the exception of a few) are unethical and therefore many of such ratio information is derived from mice muscle analysis, and therefore do not provide an exact comparison to humans.

Take for example methytrienlone, essentially oral trenbolone, well add a 7-alpha methyl group and you have the lesser-known dimethtrienolone with an anabolic: androgenic ratio of both exceeding 10,000. How does that relate to testosterone (100:100)? It does not.

You mentioned Trenbolone with a 500:500 and testosterone at 100:100 which is correct, but in the real world this does not mean a cycle of 100mg of tren a week is equal to cycle of 500mg of testosterone. We all know the testosterone would come out on top. Many other examples, Winstrol with anabolic ratio of 320, but in the real world in term of actual anabolic gains is not 3.2 times stronger. Again, this is due to mice data.

This suggests that testosterone may have a separate properties which result in anabolism. See Fig1*, provides some pathways of anabolism

‘The mechanism of anabolic action due to the administration of anabolic/androgenic steroids. AAS causes not only direct stimulation of the androgen receptor, but also supports muscle growth by increasing the levels of free androgens, increasing androgen receptor density, inhibiting corticosteroid action, increasing GH/IGF-1, and suppressing IGF-1 binding proteins’*.

With Testosterone a strong supporting argument has been provided in each area in the referenced text*, but is far too exhaustive to discuss each area in a post, but makes very interesting reading, and these pathways are certainly not limited to testosterone, but I am just giving you an example.

Now again, this discussion provided on testosterone is scientific, it provides some possible mechanism of why testosterone is rather effective in the male body at building muscle, and also noting that AA ratios are generally based on rat data.

Hope this clarifies a few things

Regards – Andrew

Reference

William Llewellyn’s Anabolic 9th Edition

Disclaimer: Please note that the information provided in my post is for entertainment purposes only. I would vehemently recommend you always do your own research and entirely understand the ramifications of your actions. Always seek medical advice before you make a choice that will impact your health.

[andrew]

GHRP-6 is a first-generation peptide, and thus broadly speaking is less refined and has a ‘sloppy’ action, which means not only does it stimulate GH but other hormones such as cortisol and prolactin, obviously this should be avoided if possible. However GHRP6 certainly is effective irrespective of side effects related to other hormones. GHRP-6 (with the exception of Ibutamoren/mk677, which is just one tablet at night) has a ‘unique’ action of stimulating appetite quite significantly, and that’s when I would recommend GHRP-6, if you can’t eat enough.
If appetite is not a problem I personally would suggest Ipamorelin, less ‘sloppy’ than ghrp6/2, it’s a 3rd generation peptide, less potential for prolactin/cortisol sides. No saturation dose at 100mcg (roughly 1mcg per kg) like ghrp2/6 does. Spoke to UK peptide supplier before all this coronavirus and mixing peptides as long as done gently in the same vial is ok. 5mg vial of Ipamorelin 2mg of mod grf (cjc no dac) gives you 20 shots of 250mcg ipam wi/100mcg mod grf.
Ideally for maximum benefits use 3+ times a day, timings can change, morning pre/wo pre-bed. The key with peptides is there benefit lies in their continual use. Food needs to be timed to allow from maximum GH pulse.
OR
What I would start with a small dose of MK677 is an evening, no messing with continual injections, wouldn’t provide ‘equal’ as the above, but would give you 90% of it with all the less fuss. I have attached 2 images from William Llewelyn’s Anabolic 2019 which gives you the outline, very reliable source of information.
If you do want to go the GHRP6/GHRP2/Ipamorelin route, please let me know and shall pass on the relevant knowledge I Know which would be of help. Peptides wise I got all my information from a chap named Paul Scarborough (although I have never met him or spoke to him, just read his guides and posts on previous forums years ago), he wrote a short but useful guide on peptides, covers 99% of info needed for peptide use, although I am not sure if there is Ibutamoren info (but I have pics as explained)
https://teampscarb.co.uk/the-very-basic-guide-to-ghrpghrh-peptides/
NOTE: I have no idea who the fella in the picture is, I only intended to link the article, and on iOS it doesn’t show up, just does in a chrome browser, don’t know how to take his pic off and leave the article linked.
MK677 Online Retailers. NOTE: I don’t have anything invested with these companies, just linked a few to show you where they can be bought, I cannot say for their particular efficacy
https://www.sshealthfoods.com/product/5188/all/all/mk-extreme-mk677-sarm-30-caps?gclid=CjwKCAjwnIr1BRAWEiwA6GpwNUf8WRENn31OQAmKqnw7CeP1YGiY9S5s4DsGaq6nVJqWPnwyF0VtzRoCA-oQAvD_BwE
https://shapeshifternutrition.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=485&language=en¤cy=GBP&of_tid=MFRWG5B5GM3TIJTGMVSWISLEHUYSM4DSN5SESZB5HEZA&adGroupId=93112177133&device=c&gclid=CjwKCAjwnIr1BRAWEiwA6GpwNTizCb7Rj_guPFtJs15u9QMgI6KCrUoaI_BDh28MfsC2HItIMQifPRoCp-4QAvD_BwE
https://www.predatornutrition.com/muscle-building-supplements/fusion-supplements/ibutamoren-max.html
Like Hilly said, For joint/injuries look at the thread that’s stickied to the top. BPC157 has worked well for me for a variety of injuries. TB500 certainly has proven to have some efficacy.
Please let me know if you feel you need any further information
Regards – Andrew

Hi mate! Have you had a personal experience with this and any known side effects?[/quote]
Yeah I have used pretty much most of them, GHRP6 and MK677 increase GH via ghrelin, ghrelin causes a massive increase in hunger, if this is a side effect depends on your goals, when dieting would be difficult would help when bulking

Some mild water retention which is associated with GH

Ipamorelin/mod grf, no side effects at all

IMO they are effective when used at least twice a day for long period of time. I personally would use peptides and/or GH, to sleep better and recover faster, so I can increase my work load.

At times of moderate use I would use metformin (Berberine was really around back then) to prevent glucose insensitivity associated with prolonged elevated GH

Hope this helps, sorry it took me so long to reply

I am more than happy to answer any other questions you have

Regards – Andrew

Disclaimer: Please note that the information provided in my post is for entertainment purposes only. I would vehemently recommend you always do your own research and entirely understand the ramifications of your actions. Always seek medical advice before you make a choice that will impact your health.

[andrew]

Thanks Rhea, yeah the educational section is fantastic, genuinely adds value to an already great service, I hope they get the subscribership they deserve, and the education is much needed in a field of almost complete and utter misinformation its a challenge to disseminate what is useful and what is not.

I maybe should start commenting some/if any input I have on the videos as I usually just watch and them and remain quiet in the background ????

Some books I thought I may add today;

A copy of all those awarded the Victoria Cross, only short entries, I read one a day and think of the qualities which those men and women possess to commit such acts of valour

Second, tools of the titans, a great book drawing together many of the routines and habits of many who have been greatly successful

Third, JailHouse Strong, a fantastic book for home workouts

Fourth, Richard Feynman, a brilliant physicist, a book that provided me with some answers

I know this has gone far beyond the scope of a ‘diet’ section.

Please let me know if you want any more

I look forward to hearing from you, please give your input

Regards – Andrew

Disclaimer: Please note that the information provided in my post is for entertainment purposes only. I would vehemently recommend you always do your own research and entirely understand the ramifications of your actions. Always seek medical advice before you make a choice that will impact your health.

[andrew]

Sorry for the confusion the original poster listed ‘Nordi prescription’ as an option from his source, and my recommendation was to use a prescription if you have the option to guarantee legitimacy, unfortunately I don’t have a Norditropin prescription for myself. Hopefully the original poster will have an answer

Regards – Andrew

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[andrew]

Eod will work fine, start there and rotate your sites, if they become too inflamed then you would have to possibly have to switch to long esters, or introduce more sites. Massaging the muscle can ensure your dispersal of the oil. For years I would backload insulin pins and that never gave any scar tissue, what did give me permanent scar tissue was doing the glutes over and over. Generally the smaller the gauge the less trauma, most gear will go through even slin pins, look at the carrier oil you gear has, Ethyl oleate will go through something smaller than thicker oil, if you want post a pic of your stuff and I can tell you it’s carrier oil/base. Another point test flu can reduced with any simple anti-pyretic -paracetamol

Your English is very good by the way

How this helps

Regards – Andrew

Disclaimer: Please note that the information provided in my post is for entertainment purposes only. I would vehemently recommend you always do your own research and entirely understand the ramifications of your actions. Always seek medical advice before you make a choice that will impact your health.

[andrew]

For me the prescription one every time, so Nordi, plus Nordi is ok out of the fridge for 21 days. You have a nice selection to choose from.

Regards – Andrew

Reference

All unused Norditropin® products must be refrigerated (36°F to 46°F) prior to first use. Do not freeze and avoid direct light. After first injection, Norditropin® pens can either be stored outside of the refrigerator (up to 77°F) for use within 3 weeks, or in the refrigerator (between 36°F and 46°F) for use within 4 weeks.

Disclaimer: Please note that the information provided in my post is for entertainment purposes only. I would vehemently recommend you always do your own research and entirely understand the ramifications of your actions. Always seek medical advice before you make a choice that will impact your health.

[andrew]

When it comes to offseason cycles, IMO generally it’s about what you maintain and sustain for a reasonable amount of time whilst hitting calorie/macro goals, training is progressive and side effects are under control so you can continue progressing all the way through your offseason.

Testosterone as a base, EQ is good due to increase in appetite and cardiovascular capacity as body weight increases, and Nandrolone in any form is an excellent anabolic. Orals for me is dianabol , or oxy but that affects appetite, use these preworkout , but won’t make or break the cycle compared to the injectable in the long run. Obviously don’t combine them all, dependant upon cycle history I would generally recommend 2 injectables with an oral preworkout, which ever combination you can sustain for the longest period of time with creating unmanageable side effects

Regards – Andrew

Disclaimer: Please note that the information provided in my post is for entertainment purposes only. I would vehemently recommend you always do your own research and entirely understand the ramifications of your actions. Always seek medical advice before you make a choice that will impact your health.

[andrew]

So glad some of you guys enjoy my book lists

Haider- I will keep adding them as long as people are interested, unfortunately I am away from the majority of my books due lockdown, but at least I have brought a good few with me to keep me going here, I am well aware there are others are in a worse position and I realise how fortunate I am for what I have.

When this is over people could suggest topics which I can cover in the literature I currently have (some examples at the end of paragraph). It would be great for people to add any books or topics they have interest in, I have recently realised I have some photos on my phone of some pages of books (to name just a few) from a variety of topics which I am going to add to the/the diet/health/training sections, such as water consumption and quality, air quality and air-purifiers I have used, grip training – specifically captains of crush grippers, motivation pics of your ideal body shape/body parts.

Sam – That books look very interesting, reminds me of the quotes, ‘ progress not perfect’ and ‘ don’t let what you can’t do stop you doing what you can’.

So glad you bought both of those books, I hope they both give you give you as much insight and comfort as they did me, please let me know how you find them.

I have put a few more attached to this message.

-The book of 5 rings and Hagakure- Which are both fantastic books on the practical and spiritual development of a samurai warrior, obviously much need to know lol, But on serious note, helps develop your mentality and commitment to any goal you should pursue.

-Under the bar by Dave Tate, This fella trained at Westside barbell, and although I have never met him or spoke to him, his writings and information over the years has been irreplaceable when it comes to powerlifting, he runs a website and YouTube channel called eliteFTS, highly recommend looking this guy up, provides so much information for free. Well this book is a gem, in terms of personal development

Please guys add topics/pics which you are currently reading and studying, I am very interested

I look forward to your replies

Regards – Andrew

Disclaimer: Please note that the information provided in my post is for entertainment purposes only. I would vehemently recommend you always do your own research and entirely understand the ramifications of your actions. Always seek medical advice before you make a choice that will impact your health.

[andrew]

Testosterone and nandrolone together would provide sufficient nitrogen retention without adding a weaker anabolic (ratio 44-88), unless you know specifically how primo affects you it would be a pointless expensive addition.

Nandrolone and Trenbolone combination is rarely combined due to prolactin issues, as they both 19nor (well tren is 17beta, but this is not a chemistry lesson lol). Prolactin control in order of availability/efficacy/side effect profile, Cabergoline, Pramipexole, Bromocriptine and some use although I strongly advise against its use Selegiline (in general for prolactin control, its an MAOI, and has what can be fatal interaction/contraindications).

When it comes to offseason cycles, IMO generally it’s about what you maintain and sustain for a reasonable amount of time whilst hitting calorie/macro goals, training is progressive and side effects are under control so you can continue progressing all the way through your offseason. If you can do that by combining whilst combining tren/deca then you will have successful offseason.

Regards – Andrew

Disclaimer: Please note that the information provided in my post is for entertainment purposes only. I would vehemently recommend you always do your own research and entirely understand the ramifications of your actions. Always seek medical advice before you make a choice that will impact your health.

[andrew]

Unfortunately it’s very difficult as hilly says to provide information on what is the best regarding insulin due to it’s vary use/s and associated dangers.

Generally speaking (which is very dangerous online with insulin) IMO (this is only one way) you fit the insulin to the diet , potentially excluding peri-workout period, not diet to the insulin, at least initially, so you don’t want to add 4iu of insulin to meals 2 and 3 and have to create the necessary glycemic load just to match a number. It needs to be the other way around, you have meals 2 and 3 , that have x amount carbs, therefore x amount insulin may increase nutrient uptake, taking into account BG readings. But that is only one way of looking at insulin use.

You need to find someone personally or ideally educate to the extent whereby you know how food consumption affects your BG that would be a good starting point

Are you using GH or any GH stimulating compounds ?

Disclaimer: Please note that the information provided in my post is for entertainment purposes only. I would vehemently recommend you always do your own research and entirely understand the ramifications of your actions. Always seek medical advice before you make a choice that will impact your health.

[andrew]

GHRP-6 is a first-generation peptide, and thus broadly speaking is less refined and has a ‘sloppy’ action, which means not only does it stimulate GH but other hormones such as cortisol and prolactin, obviously this should be avoided if possible. However GHRP6 certainly is effective irrespective of side effects related to other hormones. GHRP-6 (with the exception of Ibutamoren/mk677, which is just one tablet at night) has a ‘unique’ action of stimulating appetite quite significantly, and that’s when I would recommend GHRP-6, if you can’t eat enough.

If appetite is not a problem I personally would suggest Ipamorelin, less ‘sloppy’ than ghrp6/2, it’s a 3rd generation peptide, less potential for prolactin/cortisol sides. No saturation dose at 100mcg (roughly 1mcg per kg) like ghrp2/6 does. Spoke to UK peptide supplier before all this coronavirus and mixing peptides as long as done gently in the same vial is ok. 5mg vial of Ipamorelin 2mg of mod grf (cjc no dac) gives you 20 shots of 250mcg ipam wi/100mcg mod grf.

Ideally for maximum benefits use 3+ times a day, timings can change, morning pre/wo pre-bed. The key with peptides is there benefit lies in their continual use. Food needs to be timed to allow from maximum GH pulse.

OR

What I would start with a small dose of MK677 is an evening, no messing with continual injections, wouldn’t provide ‘equal’ as the above, but would give you 90% of it with all the less fuss. I have attached 2 images from William Llewelyn’s Anabolic 2019 which gives you the outline, very reliable source of information.

If you do want to go the GHRP6/GHRP2/Ipamorelin route, please let me know and shall pass on the relevant knowledge I Know which would be of help. Peptides wise I got all my information from a chap named Paul Scarborough (although I have never met him or spoke to him, just read his guides and posts on previous forums years ago), he wrote a short but useful guide on peptides, covers 99% of info needed for peptide use, although I am not sure if there is Ibutamoren info (but I have pics as explained)

https://teampscarb.co.uk/the-very-basic-guide-to-ghrpghrh-peptides/

NOTE: I have no idea who the fella in the picture is, I only intended to link the article, and on iOS it doesn’t show up, just does in a chrome browser, don’t know how to take his pic off and leave the article linked.

MK677 Online Retailers. NOTE: I don’t have anything invested with these companies, just linked a few to show you where they can be bought, I cannot say for their particular efficacy

https://www.sshealthfoods.com/product/5188/all/all/mk-extreme-mk677-sarm-30-caps?gclid=CjwKCAjwnIr1BRAWEiwA6GpwNUf8WRENn31OQAmKqnw7CeP1YGiY9S5s4DsGaq6nVJqWPnwyF0VtzRoCA-oQAvD_BwE

https://shapeshifternutrition.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=485&language=en¤cy=GBP&of_tid=MFRWG5B5GM3TIJTGMVSWISLEHUYSM4DSN5SESZB5HEZA&adGroupId=93112177133&device=c&gclid=CjwKCAjwnIr1BRAWEiwA6GpwNTizCb7Rj_guPFtJs15u9QMgI6KCrUoaI_BDh28MfsC2HItIMQifPRoCp-4QAvD_BwE

https://www.predatornutrition.com/muscle-building-supplements/fusion-supplements/ibutamoren-max.html

Like Hilly said, For joint/injuries look at the thread that’s stickied to the top. BPC157 has worked well for me for a variety of injuries. TB500 certainly has proven to have some efficacy.

Please let me know if you feel you need any further information

Regards – Andrew

Disclaimer: Please note that the information provided in my post is for entertainment purposes only. I would vehemently recommend you always do your own research and entirely understand the ramifications of your actions. Always seek medical advice before you make a choice that will impact your health.

[andrew]

It would not affect the ‘cruise’ if that’s what you mean, works on entirely different mechanisms , Cialis is PDE5 inhibitor which has limited interaction with anabolic hormones, so yes you would still be in a cruise IMO

Regards – Andrew

Disclaimer: Please note that the information provided in my post is for entertainment purposes only. I would vehemently recommend you always do your own research and entirely understand the ramifications of your actions. Always seek medical advice before you make a choice that will impact your health.