[andrew]

This is purely what I can surmise from the info I have been given, a-jenson please let me know if you mean the Eastern Europe party are still producing a product

The ‘company’ constitutes/d of a few ‘bodies’; 1 where there are legitimate pharmaceuticals sold OTC in Asia, and another which constituted of a few people which got nicked about 2 years again the UK, huge seizure and then any source I personally knew (which is far from extensive) sold circulating batches which have been drying up in quantity over the last few years.

This was exported I belive from Moldova, but could be wrong. When active, they were very reliable and test results came back at a very professional standard of quality, website did scratch codes as mentioned to verify batch codes.

All this being said personally I rather choose other options which are available.

Hope this helps, a-jenson if you have info on the status of the company please do let us know

Regards

Andrew

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[andrew]

Thanks for taking the time to reply fellas appreciate it.

I have found none better than Breathe Right.

However, the clear ones open your nose better than the original but do not stay on all night long. If you have any nasal issues like a deviated septum then every tiny difference is huge (an oxymoron I know, but you get me), so I have a feeling putting a clear one on then an original on top will work best and stay on all night long. I just have the original at the place I’m at now, at my other place I have boxes of the clear ones and will try the combo of the 2 and report back my findings.

We are getting into the small margins now 🙂 I had a sleep study a few years back and no apnea was reported, but I have a feeling I need an up to date test, I remember seeing a vid of Jordan explaining his experience of ‘private’ sleep/apnea treatment, and I think that’s the most viable option, at the moment at least.

You need to sort some TrainedByJP ones, really effective, and durable 🙂 Rather a niché market though.

I shall report my findings

All the best- thanks again

Regards

Andrew

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[andrew]

This is is just my opinion based upon what I have read/researched and anecdotally for what it is worth;

hGH has ‘very’ complicated mechanism’s of action (the extension of the word very stretching into the unknown) and thus many interpretations and extrapolations of its use are postulated within the ‘PED’ community, each with its own justifications and supporting evidence. However, there is quite robustly agreed-upon outcomes based upon a legitimate source (from UK pharma from a Harley St clinic to punting on an unlabelled vial being the spectrum, your decision of source-based upon your understanding of the supply chain and production requirements) of consistently dosed hGH being effective for its potential benefits.

You ‘only’ have to wait regarding food if using growth hormone secretagogues NOT with the use of 191 rDNA somatropin. This is a perpetuated myth on message boards and throughout misinformed sources of information (like Rich Piana etc). It could be argued that taking it on an empty stomach would result in a ‘more likely’ action of lipolysis, however, we are looking at the 5-year picture not 5 minutes.

So to summarise my entirely pointless rant, take 5iu of legit GH for 5years consistently every day/every other, using a dosing schedule that maximises your recovery (split up/all in 1 dose/before after food/training/sleep, just based upon your response as an individual, many have their quite rightly and very ‘costly’ opinions/experiences, all of which have validity) and you will look better than if you hadn’t taken it. You will notice benefits in recovery and sleep relatively quickly with the more the ‘long-term’ being 6 months (that point could be argued all day long).

Consistency is KEY & KING to the outcome. Educate yourself on source/s. Best of luck.

Any questions please ask

Regards

Andrew

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[andrew]

I certainly thought you would have more to worry about Kevin than ‘theoretical’ mTor downregulation 🙂

On a serious note, you can get so caught up in the minutia Pharmacokinetic details (even if they do exist) and loose perception of the bigger picture. This is not a criticism of your character more a reflection upon your methodology for determining what is effective in terms of your Net response to the drug and its purpose. If it is needed to control BG then irrespective of some slight offsetting it may still be necessary. I mention this as I have fallen down this never-ending rabbit hole myself.

Sorry to rant on. It doesn’t anyways as Kuba said, and if something does have some capacity to be ‘catabolic’ in action, it may be necessary for the overall success of your goals. Hope that helps mate.

ANy other queries fire away

Regards

Andrew

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[andrew]

Thanks ever so much your for your truthful reply, it’s really appreciated. I remember the 12mg Humatrope that had UK pharmacy stickers peeled off the purple box (back in 2017) you had, sorry I sound like a complete weirdo, I just see shit like that and don’t forget it, and those options usually are time-limited sort of things in my experience, or when it is ‘diverted’ from the genuine pharmaceutical supply in any financial quantity it’s not long before that hole dries up, it’s easier to find people who have the technology and trustworthiness to produce such product/s-as in your case.

Yeah its certainly is a huge amount of extra weight to carry. I wish you all the best in your future competitive season, which I shall closely follow, all the best.

Regards

Andrew

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[andrew]

Thanks for taking the time to reply to that mate appreciate it. From the sounds of things, you are in a good position.

Do you mind if I ask, do you split generic/pharma due to cost? Or simply because you are ‘given’ generics and may as well use them? I ask this question not to be intrusive, its because I discuss the budgeting regularly with people about their own ‘GH Budget’ and when the most effective areas are covered by pharma doses-then if the dosage increase from a pharmaceutical supply is too expensive to then use Generics/Ansomone, and then have a Pharma/Generic split, and then essentially it is a sliding scale, if you follow-or may just be rambling.

What is the threshold/ceiling effect you work to that limits your dosage? Creeping fasting BG or plateauing of effectiveness?

Thank you

Regards

Andrew

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[andrew]

Hi Jordan,

Are you using Pharma GH? How have you chosen to split up your dosing? ‘If’ BG is/does rise will just you a periodic dose of Lantus ad-hoc to correct Or then consider a more regular insulin protocol? I apologise if you have covered these things, I have tried to read back. Certainly looking forward to your vid on Test/Fastslin/Lantus vid, and love the look of the website. Thanks

Regards

Andrew

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[andrew]

If you don’t mind me asking is the GH pharma?
Thanks
Andrew

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Currently not buddy and tbh Ive grown very sceptical about pharmacy brands in recent times and even have to steer away from
Them. Best bet is if you’re in the know of someone with lab tested UGL gh with reports and of ultimate trust to you. Which I know for gen pop is gonna be pretty hard sorry. [/quote]
Yeah I agree, truthfully I think It was an implicit question of -do you value the resulting effects of pharmaceutical GH to invest such a high proportion of money in that area- but I don’t know you well enough to ask, this is me just being really honest, sorry if this sounds weird?

However, I was still interested irrespective of money if you chose to go pharma or not, I think when you begin to understand the production methods and supply chain of growth hormone, when it gets down its money (unfortunate or fortunately, dependant on your financial position).

Either way, thank you for taking the time out of your day to answer my question and wish you all the success in the coming offseason and next contest.

Regards

Andrew

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[andrew]

If you don’t mind me asking is the GH pharma?

Thanks

Andrew

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[andrew]

Thanks for your reply, will watch it when I get a min

A almost wanna make a post about this fella Derek, because he is dead likeable and is clearly quite grounded in his understanding of bodybuilding pharmacology 101, but his videos are intentionally sensationalised to get views and this is not a criticism but mere fact, and I have absolutely no problems whatsoever with it, but someone recently posted of his finding of AR upregulation from L-Carnitine injections, and as Jimmy noted-and I am sure Derek would agree, we must always have and maintain perspective, would sublingual oxymetholone and L-Carnitine make a difference, who knows?

The factor that is rarely plotted on the internal psychological model including food/training/drugs is time, and alot of time, you can’t beat time, but I can’t make a video Titled 15 years of agony 2 steps forward 1 back,as people never see the daily changes, Im ranting off-topic here, but my point is maximise everything to an equal extent of the effect oxy has on your hairline and you will make a very successful bodybuilder.

All the best

Andrew

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[andrew]

You need double that dose of b6 I believe bud. Studies I think may of been doing 300mg twice a day or 600mg twice a day

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Hi hilli, in a cycle of deca when do you think it is appropriate to insert it? Right from the start?

Before ideally, then it prevents prolactinemia in the first place, usually if it starts its a battle to correct in my experience, but all is not lost if you haven’t started it anyway, it should still help. also I found p5p B6 to be more efficacious especially in combination, 50 mg or 100mg of p5p which is an active form of B6 and doesn’t require conversion, with B6 pyridoxine at stated doses.

Hope this helps

Andrew

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[andrew]

Ok so a drugs method of administration can effect its efficacy due to blood levels, anadrol was only ever produced orally although some or the studies did injectable versions, 2 option IMO swallow it or buy injectable and inject it, Abdi and Thai androl is pressed tablets, they have been bound with excipients which maximise oral dosing NOT sublingual, you go to the trouble of crushing em ecstasy style in magazine with a bottle-then put that under your tongue, if you buy UGL in caps this will give you a similar sublingual effect, some of the drug will be administered sublingually and a single pass of the liver, most and you would know this if you have been prescribed sublingual drugs the second dry powder hits the underside of the tongue because it’s like sand your mouth runs a river and you end up swallowing most of it. Injectable is for injectable only, the only exception is winstrol suspended in water, NOT oxy in oil with solvents etc-I think it would make you ill tbh swallowing it regularly. I have been a position where I have been very nauseous for an extended period of time and struggled swallowing all my meds told my consultant I put em all under my tongue and swallow what I can, he replied’ well it’s all going down that chute anyway ‘, so you could try it will tab under the tongue, but I would imagine most will be swallowed.

Sorry to rant on I could have made that far mor parsimonious, either way hope it helps

Regards

Andrew

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[andrew]

Personally I would recommend the KSM post workout , L-theanine 200-400mg would a good addition; it can augment caffeine and potentially ‘blunt’ it’s stimulating effects, good at the end of the day when had caffeine, would fit well with KSM and 500mg Magnesium Bisglycenate, these 3 combined could be said to anxiolytic and calming. Focus wise is a subjective thing, I would keep the calming sups post and see if that makes a difference based in preworkout coffee.Caffeine dosing ) can be then changed, to suit concentration requirements, with it being a little complicated taking preworkout calming sups in combination .IMO tren and anadrol , light androgen centres in the brain a light, so use that to your benefit where possible. Hope this helps.

Who is Dial In produced by I cannot seem to find it online, might be limited tech skills ? as I am into nootropics, Brain optimisation where I can

Thanks

Andrew

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[andrew]

It’s perfectly fine most of the time when the gear is suspended in vegetable oils, eg UK pharmaceutical sustanon is suspended in arachis oil (peanut oil) is fine, but some UGLs use ethyl oleate as a carrier solution as it is thinner.It’s shortened to EO, however this is unfortunately corrosive to rubber and plastic so should only be stored in glass. This is NOT to be confused with EO stamped/printed on syringe packets, this EO logo circled means the product has been sterilised using ethylene oxide, often it says R which means sterilisation via Gamma irradiation, but that’s unimportant, just don’t store gear that’s suspended in ethyl oleate (EO in this caseNOT EO on syringe packets) with a rubber syringe as it could cause corrosion of the rubber. Hope you understand,if you need any clarity, please ask away

Regards

Andrew

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[andrew]

Regarding PDE5s for ‘vascularisation’ of muscles, potentially could keep BP in check and there is an argument for it the supporting heart health, but that justification is beyond the scope of this post . starting cialis 5mg EOD in morning will work fantastically for pump, combine with 6g L-Citrulline and 3.2mg Beta-alanine, plus pre-workout stim of choice and you shall a fantastic pump providing mineral and water balance are healthy. Viagra, due to short half need to taken closer to workout, that and seeing blue having a banging headache and it not really working means I personally never use it, but definitely cialis.

Regards

Andrew

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