[andrew]

Yes, but use very sparingly as tolerance and dependence are very real and a living hell. I only use when I have gone a full night already without sleep. Can get a metallic taste in the mouth, but thats insignificant compared to addiction. For very short term use only IMO.
Have you heard of promethazine (25mg) -Phenegran, a 1st generation antihistamine, can get a box of 56 for 8/9quid in boots. Non-addictive unlike zopiclon. May improve sleep latency (nodding off time). Consult your pharmacist who may point you to diphenhydramine (nytol) but that only works for a few days.
Hope i have been helpful
Regards
Andrew
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Thanks for your reply, yeah would be short use, I’ve just changed jobs and now have very early starts and am struggling to change into my very early bed time on my first shift in and need something to help me nod off, I feel zopiclone would
Maybe be a bit extreme… however I have managed to order some sominex from
Chemist which i believe would be similar to phanagan
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Yeah I would try to use them as last resort, but I can see how it would helpful to get you into a new sleeping pattern, be aware of driving the morning after and things like that as z-drugs/benzos can linger (as can all sleeping meds)-but have the potential to affect hazard perception etc. The scary thing about these is you would swear blind your are not under the ‘influence’ but you certainly are, and that’s from personal experience.
Sominex is 20mg promethazine- phenegran is 25mg, however in future if you need to use again the Phenegran is far better value for money as its is a 56 tab box and sominex is 8 for the same price. Someone who had prescribed you the drug may tell you that the max dose you can take (please verify this via BNF online and other sources, so you know for yourself) is 50mg, so 2.5tabs of sominex or 2 Phenegran. However you should obviously always you least dose possible, just something you could be aware of if really struggling before using zopiclone, that would be my choice.
Hope you get into a sleeping pattern nice easy and enjoy your new job, any other questions please ask away
Regards
Andrew

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[andrew]

Yes, but use very sparingly as tolerance and dependence are very real and a living hell. I only use when I have gone a full night already without sleep. Can get a metallic taste in the mouth, but thats insignificant compared to addiction. For very short term use only IMO.
Have you heard of promethazine (25mg) -Phenegran, a 1st generation antihistamine, can get a box of 56 for 8/9quid in boots. Non-addictive unlike zopiclon. May improve sleep latency (nodding off time). Consult your pharmacist who may point you to diphenhydramine (nytol) but that only works for a few days.
Hope i have been helpful
Regards
Andrew

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[andrew]

You are most welcome Brandon, I am glad I could be of some help. I would always try my best to help advise someone in your predicament or similar. If you ever have further questions just tag me in and I will respond

All the best

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[andrew]

Thanks for the information, generally the active life is around 30 days, I have plotted the last 100mg dosage you took last week and you can see it attached. Your blood work looks healthy, cholesterol is well in range, hematocrit is marginally out by an insignificant amount.
Regarding heart rate, it is good that monitor these variables, as biological feedback is essential to measured improvement. Your heart rate although elevated over time, it is not to the point a tachycardia. It appears that these symptoms are indeed potentially psychosomatic (I am choosing my words carefully-as I feel it important you seek medical supervision). I would recommend you also do some research on ‘heart rate variability’ (HRV) and the parasympathetic/sympathetic responses.
As far as I understand the side effects listed on the box insert is testosterone cypionate acting in a similar manner to ‘tren-cough’, you could say the slight misadministration whereby a vein is nicked causing a nervous system response such as coughing, sweating, increased heart rate and shortness of breath-as mentioned in the leaflet. Regarding cardiovascular damage would be associated with left-ventricular hypertrophy/atherosclerosis/lipid changes etc
Going forward like I mentioned before I would take exceptional care regarding PCT meds and their possible mental side effects, but again they could help
If you have any physical goals, I would potentially look towards the mildest/least androgenic, such as primobolan/anavar and the potentially the addition of GH could help with general well being
Hope I have been of some help, any more questions please ask away
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Andrew

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[andrew]

Very strange.
Test gel ?
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No this is test Cyp from Doctor. [/quote]
@hilly  my hemoglobin was 168 just slightly high doctor said nothing to worry about. Like I said I’ve been off for a week now and feel much better. Have u even seen this before?[/quote]
Yes I have seen this before but not precipitated by the use of testosterone.
When anxiety is formed in your mind and the action is repeated so is this anxiety, the memory of the first heart pounding event is relived, thoughts escalate rapidly searching for a cause, and since you have just injected something into your body, the answer to the question anxiety is posing is that its the use of testosterone. However it could be independent of that, do you think if given test vs placebo you would get the same symptoms, my guess is you would get it either way.
Its easy to say, well pharmacologically testosterone does not do this, and to overcome your anxiety you must repeatedly expose yourself. However I believe this is unnecessary punishment if you can tolerate coming off TRT.
Like I said before, this is very real for you and as such you should do what is in your best interest. Has there been any changes in circumstances in your life ?
Personal question, feel free to ignore, but when you have continued savage anxiety I think there is something more to it than testosterone. Would consider using some form of calming aid to relax you when you do have shot to see the anxiety for what it is and let it pass ? Not that I would normally recommend doing this but TRT usually is life long commitment, but like i said i may not be for you
All the best
Regards
Andrew

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I’ve tried lorazepam it didn’t work, like I said I’m off now for a week and feel better.  The heart palpitations really worried me. I do have recents bloods if you’d like to see them. [/quote]

Lorazepam is a potent anxiolytic medication that would generally alleviate your symptoms if given in an adequate dosage, I rather not speak of numbers on the forum-as I believe in strongly assessing the benefits/costs of benzodiazepines, I am sure you doctor provided dosage recommendations, Lorazepam is normally formulated in 2 strength with the higher dose being an exceptionally potent anxiolytic in those naive to such a dose. It is provided as rapid tranquillisation in acutely psychotic patients in psych hospitals- in the UK its the go-to regarding severe agitation. Anyway I am rambling

Potentially you could speak to your doctor about the use of beta-blockers-propranolol is a potent competitive antagonist for adrenalin/noradrenaline-essentially stops adrenalin sending its message to the CNS. Works well for hypotension (blood pressure) and tachycardia (heart rate exceeding 100).

It seems that if your blood results are in a healthy range it probably won’t be too revealing, but may help. I think relating to the concerns regarding your heart it would be prudent to speak to your doctor about and ECG/EKG-to identify an abnormal rhythm and chest x-ray which could identify left ventricular hypertrophy relating to athletic development/PED use etc This may seem a little excessive I am just thinking of your heart health.

If you have stopped and you feel better, then maybe this is an obvious way forward, in the UK TRT is administered every 12 weeks-but that might be an awful drawn-out process if it doesn’t suit, and as Hilly mentioned maybe testo gel would be subtle and avoiding injections.

Maybe some calming supplementation such as; L-theanine 200MG, Ashwaghada (KSM-66 Patended version) 600MG, Magnesium Bisglycinate 500MG
These supplements are very helpful and backed by a lot of science

Hope I can be of some help-any questions please ask

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Andrew

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[andrew]

Very strange.
Test gel ?

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No this is test Cyp from Doctor. [/quote]

@hilly  my hemoglobin was 168 just slightly high doctor said nothing to worry about. Like I said I’ve been off for a week now and feel much better. Have u even seen this before?[/quote]

Yes I have seen this before but not precipitated by the use of testosterone.

When anxiety is formed in your mind and the action is repeated so is this anxiety, the memory of the first heart pounding event is relived, thoughts escalate rapidly searching for a cause, and since you have just injected something into your body, the answer to the question anxiety is posing is that its the use of testosterone. However it could be independent of that, do you think if given test vs placebo you would get the same symptoms, my guess is you would get it either way.

Its easy to say, well pharmacologically testosterone does not do this, and to overcome your anxiety you must repeatedly expose yourself. However I believe this is unnecessary punishment if you can tolerate coming off TRT.

Like I said before, this is very real for you and as such you should do what is in your best interest. Has there been any changes in circumstances in your life ?

Personal question, feel free to ignore, but when you have continued savage anxiety I think there is something more to it than testosterone. Would consider using some form of calming aid to relax you when you do have shot to see the anxiety for what it is and let it pass ? Not that I would normally recommend doing this but TRT usually is life long commitment, but like i said i may not be for you

All the best

Regards

Andrew

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[andrew]

Hi Brandon,

Thanks for coming back and providing an update. Its good that you had blood tests done and glad everything came back normal. If you have had both Cyp and Enan the only other thing that may help maybe 25mg shots EOD, get the pins and barrels that have no dead space and there’s no wasting horomone on regular injects.

They are people for whom TRT is not an suitable option, and if I had to pick between testosterone and no anxiety, it would anxiety free everytime, genuinely couldn’t give a shit if a couldnt get another hard on ever Vs anxiety. That trade off is entirely up to your subjective wellbeing and your consultants advice. Testosterone normally promotes a general sense of wellbeing but that is not to say that it is like for every candidate. Always choose health first my brother.

Be mindful if coming of TRT that PCT meds can be psychologically unsettling for some too, but you have to what is best for you. I would just be mindful before you use HCG/Clomid. But these may help, you just can’t quantify you’re reaction. I hope you manage to find balance.

Hope I have been of some help, any other questions please fire away

Regards

Andrew

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[andrew]

Every single Anabolic steriod ever invented has the capacity to elicit some form of androgenic expression(no matter how small) that could cause acne.

Some people take extreme measures as using Roaccutane to avoid acne, however this drug can have extreme side effects and is used as a drug of last resort in acne treatment. But some people report using a low dose can avoid this and generally there are is a substantial amount of people who when prescribed in adolescents causes acne to permanently subside. I have never taken this drug however and I would seek to get advice from those with first hand experience.
I do infrequently use benzoylperoxide cream, which you can buy OTC in the UK and works very well for regarding spotting flare ups

If a small dose of nandrolone causes acne which makes you feel uncomfortable then like you said i would call it a day
Hope this helps
Regards
Andrew

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I can see the logic here, but the concept is a little flawed;

it’s funny you should mention SARM-like activity because it 500;500 ratio, SARM like would be a tissue-selective anabolic which has little andro like primo and skewed mainly toward anabolism and no androgenic activity, whereas tren has 500, that’s as Max pointed out it has as such that propensity to activate androgenic tissue such as sebaceous glands irrespective of DHT and cause acne. Regarding cattle feedlots, whats used normally is synovex-test prop and e2 10:1 ratio, with finaplix-tren ace.

So if you want to look for a hormone that is reduced to have minimal e2 and andro sides, as I said above it primo/Anavar, generally the newer more refined anabolic which are skewed towards tissue selectivity ie anabolism and lacking in androgenic activity.

However, testosterone fulfills so many other growth pathways including obviously the androgen receptor, and provides e2 for igf, this certainly does not mean it is essential, I am just of the belief that an awful lot of muscular development can be attained via even the use of testosterone alone (at varying doses).

Hope I have been of some help, any other questions please ask away

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[andrew]

1.no; but the caveat is why are you taking it? Ergogenic then no. Thyroid replacement then T4 is a preferred (arguably) option
2.yes, however I have no personal experience of this product, its mechanisms of action do not conflict with the purpose of a cruise and may help pumps in training sessions, but that is what I have been told, I have never personally used it,but see no reason why it could not be implemented in a cruising period

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[andrew]

Interesting stuff thanks @Andrew

You are most welcome, if anyone has any further queries regarding Mental Health medication, supplements and related bits please feel free to tag me in and I will try my best to help

Glad I can help

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Just add this to your meals, it reduced sodium salt with potassium added. Problem solved Regards Andew

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Hi, we don’t have that in Sweden, it’s not lowering sodium that’s the purpose. I Use lots of Sodium and use potassium as a supplement on the side

You don’t use it to lower sodium but ‘indirectly’ add potassium, as that’s what’s in the product to produce a ‘salty’ taste, so people add that and salt (sodium) to their meals together, get the potassium and sodium combo with your meals and with plenty of water (ideally slightly away from meals) and bang-MEGA pumps. I would imagine many UK lads do this, I know a few for whom its a staple

But yeah I can see its place in supplementation, but many get from dietary added source/s unless you sweat an inordinate amount-DNP or endurance runner OR when using/used loop diuretics which deplete potassium, but this is highly dangerous and generally avoidable

You have to be conscious to not over supplement with potassium as it can be toxic in high (very) doses, there’s the tale of Eddie Hall almost dying from over potassium supplemntation, not to put you off or anoything lol I am sure you have your own justification for supplementation

Regards

Andrew

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[andrew]

You potentially may have an allergy to the carriers oil ( eg Arachis/ peanut oil in Sustanon) or the excipients, the ester is removed from testosterone via hydrolysis and test cyp (olive oil/low BA) had a carboxylic acid ester which may cause some irritation which is then perpetuated by your anxiety, and its a self-fulfilling prophecy that as it happened last week as such it will it be this week, on and on the weeks go this builds to a point of acute ‘anxiety’. I would ask to be changed onto a different formulation or stay at 100mg if you can tolerate that dosage.

Irrespective of if its this medication that is causing anxiety, it is very real for you and I get that, so you should definitely consult with the prescribing doctor to discuss your concerns. Try to find ways of distraction in the short term and then when you spoken with the doc take it from there.

Hope this helps

Andrew

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[andrew]

Its is psychosomatic anxiety unrelated to the action of testosterone. You may have anxiety issues, which certainly leads to finger pointing a cause, but it isn’t testosterone, or very unlikely. What is you stimulant intake like ? Coffee/preworkouts ?

Regards

Andrew

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[andrew]

Medichecks

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