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thanks guys! I always read to shoot it SubQ but I went straight in to the front delt this morning and felt fine! sorry for posting in the wrong forum again haha

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ah shit, I meant to ???? the bloody app always takes me back to cardio. thanks mate

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I reckon prices on the underground will initially rise as demand goes up, then as someone else picks up where China left off hopefully prices will fall back down

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I’ve just started using their pure series Tren Ace. It’s thick as treacle! I’m not sure what the difference is supposed to be but the usual medtech stuff has been good to me in the past

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300mg would be a great start point. I prefer NPP to deca, way less sides for me and it’s in and out quick which I like. On paper 300mg of nandrolone is 300mg of nandrolone but I definitely feel more from NPP than deca, maybe because it hits me quicker but who knows.

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I’d definitely save the orals for pre contest, they’ll most likely kill your appetite and have you feeling pretty shitty. A good second injectable might be something like EQ or NPP depending on your goals. I wouldn’t touch tren yet, save that for when you will really benefit from it, if at all

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Another vote for Graftism

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I train at Body Flex in Aylesbury, it’s about 45 mins from Oxford but a great bodybuilding gym!

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There is no right way.

However, it makes sense from a pharmacology perspective to go back to the dosage left off and assess progress from there whether that requires a further increase or staying put until progress ceases.

1. YOU CANNOT GET USED TO A COMPOUND – there are no androgen receptor insensitivities to prolonged compound use. If this was the case, we would have exponential increasing dosages regardless of TRT or cycling.

2. The previous max dosage used may still warrant progress i.e is every other aspect outside of supraphysiological androgens level being met? Is food at its absolute maximum? Is nutrient partitioning still efficient? Is sleep/recovery demands being met?

Was the previous cycle cut short due to health issues therefore still leaving progress to be made at the previous max dose used ?

Hopefully thats food for thought

Thanks Dean, gives some more to think about. Personally I feel like it could be a good way of becoming very strict with everything outside of the drugs, no matter how on point most of us are, we could all probably eek out more, maybe even just from consistency. I think my experiment will be going from a cruise dose and then slowly ramping up test and introducing new compounds as progress stalls. I just feel that if I can maintain, or mitigate as much muscle loss as possible on cruise, then every dose increase (to a certain point) should equal more progress, and I can end up being at a better position by the time I even make it to my previous max dose. This is all speculative bro science but I think there is some logic there haha!

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Yeah definitely, I feel logically that there must be merit to both. But say you end your last blast at 2,000mg total, are you wasting your time not going in at the same mg? I’ve done both but honestly I’ve impatiently bumped up the dose due to FOMO 

That’s a stupid way of approaching things… you can still make MAD progress with way less than what you took a cycle before this one for example.[/quote]
but that is the way that I see most people approach it

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Yeah definitely, I feel logically that there must be merit to both. But say you end your last blast at 2,000mg total, are you wasting your time not going in at the same mg? I’ve done both but honestly I’ve impatiently bumped up the dose due to FOMO ????

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bump. any other opinions?

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Ellis, im all out and they aren’t about atm , my pal ran it , and he closed up shop

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Did you not get on well with the Imperium Primo Jordan?

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already looking very large at the start of this push man, cant imagine the end result!!

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