[Ben Beckman]

Neither are relevant . Are your lifts progressing?

Yeah my lifts progress well!
Almost no soreness at all. I understand from you that it doesn’t matter, and only lifts progression matters (with standard form ofc) ?
BTW if my lifts will stop progressing can I just post my logs/program here for you to asses ?
Thanks!

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Hello mate, yes it’s not relevant.

But soreness (I did a lot of Hiit and Jumps in between my gym workouts) and I have reached a point to where everyday my legs were tired and stiff.

It does not really play on growth unless it affects your recovery and lifts progresses at the gym.

So main focus is legs recovery and lifts progress

If you found your balance this way, keep it this way until you reach a plateau into your workouts, then when/if that moment occurs, create a new subject here on the forum and we will help u[/quote]
Got it thank you!

[Ben Beckman]

Neither are relevant . Are your lifts progressing?

Yeah my lifts progress well!
Almost no soreness at all. I understand from you that it doesn’t matter, and only lifts progression matters (with standard form ofc) ?

BTW if my lifts will stop progressing can I just post my logs/program here for you to asses ?
Thanks!

[Ben Beckman]

In really simple terms , if you don’t look like an ifbb pro , you don’t need more

If log book isn’t progressing your programming as a whole is likely wrong

Got it 💪🏻

Using PED but not looking like IFBB pro = 2-4 sets on upper lower
Using PED and looking like an IFBB pro = maybe need more if log book not progressing ?
Natural = never need more than 2-4 sets only in very specific cases like very high level like AJ

[Ben Beckman]

Hi Jordan 👋🏻
How do you know you need more sets for chest than 2-3 ? By log book not progressing ? How do you know you do not need less volume rather than more volume ?
Thanks 🙏🏻

[Ben Beckman]

What are your stress levels like?

What are you eating pre bed and when?

Are you in a deficit or surplus atm?

Do you take any other supplements in the evening?

Are you assisted.. if so, what are you running?

What time of day do you train?

Fairly low stress

Not the same every day but mostly protein porridge or eggs on toast or beef and rice

Surplus

I take all my supplements (fish oils dream sleep vitamins magnesium d3 and k2)

I’m not assisted

Train around 5-7pm[/quote]

Could well be that your nervous system is still stimulated from training in the evening.

I would take UNWIND immediately post training.

Take the K2&D3 in the morning, with your Meal 1.

You may not need the additional magnesium if taking Unwind and then Dream Sleep Pre bed, as these both contain magnesium.

Reduce your fluid intake before bed.

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I cut out fluid 2 hours before bed and still can’t sleep well on rest days[/quote]
From my personal experience if I go too long without a deload/a few days of rest my sleep tend to get bad

[Ben Beckman]

Legs was superb today until the very last set of the day, where I tore my adductor bad on the adductor machine , very frustrating, it was second set , never ever felt vulnerable and it was on the eccentric, super freak injury tbh . It’s sore now, it will be very very sore tmo , I can walk , but tmo will be interesting getting up/down off things . I have done this before , rehab will take me a while

Because I’m still pushing to get upper size back , I will keep to ppl , as my upper need their own days, I should be able to leg ext / curl once it’s settled , and then I will do rehab work that challenges the adductor daily , once it lets me . If I’m in the gym 3 days in a row , that will look like limited ROM , very light adductor machine and just doing that all 3 days and then giving it a day to rest , building that over the weeks . Based on how bad it felt/ sounded , compared to last time , be 4-5 months to get back to proper lifts , will try my hardest to get it healed faster

Damn that sucks… will that tear influence your competitions plans ?

[Ben Beckman]

What Peter said. If you’ve been training, and I mean really training hard for 7 years and you pushed up and gained the most amount of muscle you ever have in your life on only 2200 calories something is really really wrong! Unless you only weigh like 120-140lbs then maybe that would make a little more sense. With someone with 7 years in the gym that trains really hard I would expect to see them pushing up on well over 3000+ calories….depending on weight of course.

My weight is 150 lbs, can gain easily on 2200 cals
Really weird I have no idea why it’s like that. Also walking 7000-10000 steps a day

[Ben Beckman]

Anyone else has more input ?

[Ben Beckman]

this sounds very strange to me.

Were was your total kcal at the end of the push phase were you gained the most muscle you ever have done. How long did you hold at this point before you started dieting.

As you tapered down – even tho the scale didnt drop much did you look leaner? What did performance do in the gym?

My cals were at around 2200 when i finished the bulk.
I didn’t hold that at all i just went straight into cutting.
I did look leaner after the cut but not by much – equal to the weight drop
My strength held for the duration of the cut, didn’t get stronger nor weaker.

[Ben Beckman]

I would do a blood work to see if you have all your values on point

Cause when you are in deficit and you don’t loose weight or cut, there is a problem

If you are in deficit you are supposed to loose weight and getting leaner

ALSO, body did not dropped much weight but how was the look ?

Cause if you were lean mate, we don’t care of the weight

But if you were not, do bloods and see what is the problem

You can also send us your labs if you need analyse

What markers should I be looking for in the blood work ?