[Benja]

another update as we start to alter things & actively come down ?

im not used to taking the reigns with jordan at all! so i will have to get used to updating….i will be altering diet etc without him even really knowing the specifics…very excited hes allowing me to do this tbh…most of you probably dont follow me or know much of me, but i am actually quite smart and i have been with jordan for nearly 12 years….in that time, we have lived and experienced a lot, im ready to use my knowledge ?

RIGHT, SO

as we start coming down, i need to be able to SEE more.

I cant be stabbing in the dark, digging into a deeper deficit, and risking loss of performance and muscle

Jordans body is a complicated one. the tools we have with others, we dont have with jordan…and the tools we have with jordan, we dont have with others haha i will explain that as we go along

So right now, nandrolone only isnt the best option. A mix of eq, nandrolone, tren and mast will visually be more accurate.

as most of you know, jordan looks pretty shit on test UNTIL very lean….turns into a blob, and holds a ton of water in his midsection, which is both uncomfortable, impairs training, and looks awful. So FOR HIM, nandrolone & eq is a better choice

from here….

1 g eq
1 g nandrolone
700 mg tren e
700 mg mast e
over time nandrolone will be reduced and removed, more tren & mast will be added…ending potentially on 1 g eq 1 g tren 1 g mast, with any necessary orals used, but sparely, as they arent kind to digestion.

Depending on the look, test can be used to bump fullness as needed. (eq reduced to accommodate)

I dont care at all about his weight…at the mo, he is a neat & tidy 281 lbs.

Its likely he will be around 250lbs in legit condition….condiiton is my thing! so it will be 250lbs CORINNE standard condition lol….if its less its less….zeros cares….im not afraid to push for that & there is no upper limit to jordans work capacity….i am also very prepared to live with a tired & quiet jordan haha…i will get big, full, aesthetic, peeled, dry… job done

Zero test on that or is test still in? What kind of dose of ai do u use to that amount?

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[Benja]

A few tweaks to food , drugs I will do my usual thing and juggle around the compounds based on feel as I have mentioned a lot nandrolone feels great , test I can run when I’m lean like now , I won’t bother with any primo in this first phase as will try to push the test harder .
So my legs are still down from being hurt , because I haven’t gone back up in weight , I’m sitting around 260 now and the max I will go to in this phase is 270 as I just am not getting fat , basically I heed my legs at full size again with just that wiggle room to play with , I feel it’s doable.
We are looking at circa 3.5g total drugs for this push , anything less for me now at this point will do fuck all, as I haven’t gained much new muscle in a while. One thing I haven’t done is been able to run test hard for a long time , so I’m thinking test will be at around 2g nandrolone 1.5g or vice Versa , depending how I feel , my appetite Is super high so if that takes a hit , good lol! Will help me not clock watch for meals like I have done for the last 6 weeks non stop lol.
Gh 15/day , I take this however really , usually 5/5/5 , but sometimes 5/10 , no real reason, it doesn’t make a diff . My BG is fine on this without insulin, I have played with some lantus and fast insulin a little over the last few weeks , just to see if there was potential use but I’m going hypo between meals ! So no need for that.
I predict taking about 16 weeks to slowly push up 10 pounds , i don’t think I have ever gone that slow before , but it will be a very tidy start point and once I have the legs back over 30.5 , i will be happy.
I will update as I go with cycle changes , but they will be regular, but just basically I will take 3.5g from whatever – it’s all the same in the end , just depends what causes more sides for some
At 2g test I will need to use aromasin / adex , not fussed which , whatever I know is real
I have ramipril / telmisartan to hand incase my BP takes a hit but genuinely love heart and vital support combo is insane for covering this , I will say if i need pharma intervention though to help

How much ai would u use to that amount gear?

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[Benja]

Why ?
Dose for what ?

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What range do u like test? Let’s say between 200-1000 mg

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[Benja]

No but it will increase androgen ratio. Technically doesn’t reduce estrogen
I don’t think you need Adex with that stack bud, see how you feel

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I feel good actually on 250/200 with 0,5×2 .. normally I use 0,5/12,5 adex/aromasin eod on 500 and 750 25mg eod [/quote]
I would try and go without

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Okay, I been doing this the last month, so on Monday I will try to see if I can get blood check if now I will try without

What would I pick looking at me when the gyms open, I have what I planned writing ☝?

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[Benja]

No but it will increase androgen ratio. Technically doesn’t reduce estrogen
I don’t think you need Adex with that stack bud, see how you feel

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I feel good actually on 250/200 with 0,5×2 .. normally I use 0,5/12,5 adex/aromasin eod on 500 and 750 25mg eod

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[Benja]

Person dependant , is BP high, are you watery , are you having estro sides , if not , run zero and see.

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Would masteron lower e2? Let say 250mg test e-200 mast e

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[Benja]

No

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Would say 0,5mg x2 ew is much ai to that?

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[Benja]

I have them run a dose to get responsive again to anabolics, if they have serious goals , so that could be anywhere from 300-700mg / week . Obv that’s not healthy but when your goals are truly the top end, and say your max anabolics is 4g / week, 500-700 is going to regain responsiveness to go again. I repeat that is so fucking unhealthy . For those running much lesser cycles , 200-250 cruise periods

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Would u use an ai on 250 mg?

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[Benja]

Sus from experience is awful for controlling e2 I would favour single ester test always
Sus ruins many from experience when it comes to libido and hormone balance

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What dose aromasin/adex would u use to High test like 750?[/quote]
All depends on your blood work and person dependent I don’t need any on 750’others need a lot
Get blood work done use the minumum dose then re asss

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Can’t just get blood done? live in Denmark … what u go for if I can’t get blood

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[Benja]

Sus from experience is awful for controlling e2 I would favour single ester test always
Sus ruins many from experience when it comes to libido and hormone balance

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What dose aromasin/adex would u use to High test like 750?

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[Benja]

So to kick off rebound I have been taking the following cycle
This will be for 6 weeks and then we will shift our focus to health and ensuring in markers are in place for next years assault
1g Sus
500mg Deca
50mg dbol pre
10iu slin pre/post
10iu gh
With this has come a lot of water which was to be expected but the potential to grow some quick fire tissue weighs out the negatives here.
I’ve levelled off at 316 am weight which is about 20lb up from show day 2 weeks ago.
Things feel really good and I’m getting strong QUICK

What ai do u use and dose to that

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[Benja]

Not a bad push session today. Just matched numbers Nothing to shout about. Looking forward to feeling the cycle kick in when I start and see how strong I can get as considering I’m cruising I am quite strong for me.
Incline db press 1×3 1×8
Decline barbell 1×6 1×12
Smith shoulder press 1×6 1×13
Cable fly 3×20
Machine lateral 3×15
Cuffed lateral 3×12
V bar press downs 3×8
Rope push downs 3×15

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Why so low test?
What dose ai would u use to 500 test and 300 npp?

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Decent ish session , gave up a rep here and there on bits , but all things considered was gd . Change of mind on cycle , need more power , so will push more prop , I’m going to repeat this last phase again not giving up 270 yet , as I am a much leaner 270 than when I last hit it, I can do that again considering test is so low ? so will do :
150 tren
100 prop
120 eq
370/day – 2590 a week. Still nothing “
Crazy “ , for 270 at my height , lean . Let’s make it a very lean 270 in another 3 weeks ?

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When u use ai, do u use adex or aromasin?

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Cycle update – things are hotting up. Please DO NOT try and replicate this cycle, I am not advising anyone do this but want to be totally transparent with my prep.
Test 750 slow ester
EQ 750
Tren a 1000
Mast p 400 replaces npp
T3 25
T4 75
Trestelone 30mg daily
Adex 0.5 x 3 per week
Insulin 6 pre 10 post
Gh 3iu x 3 per day am post and pre bed

You look insane bro!
U using adex, do u like adex better than aromasin or ?

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[Benja]

Haven’t been on here in ages and judging from your recent check in pictures, you’ve packed on some size!!
Mind copying and pasting your diet and cycle as I’ve had a look but can’t seem to find that section on the website version?

Hey man. Thank you. Hopefully I’ve gained some decent tissue and we manage to keep it all on for this show.
TD
150g beef , 10 whites , 1.5 bagel
80g cor, 50g berries, 40g whey, 20g almond butter
Intra 1 scoop sustain 3 mps max
Pwo 40g whey 7g creatine
75g rice, 200g chicken, 1 wrap, 110g coco pops
80g oats, 50g whey, 100g berries
250g sweet potato, 200g beef
50g whey and 4 rice cakes
NTD
165g beef , 10 whites , 1.5 bagel
200g chicken , 3 egg whites , 40g rice
100g salmon , 100g white fish 3
whites
200g beef , 40g rice
200g chicken,40g rice
40g whey, 80g oats
Tren a 450
Test cyp 250
Masteron 350
100 anavar pre workout
100 clen
50 t3
2iu gh am and pm

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What dose ai do u run to that cycle?

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