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Thanks guys.

I will consider this for my setup. Wedges and upright (= hip angle as wide as possible).

I have no access to a hack oder leg press.

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I use the natty stack and it increases my testosterone by 5 to 6 mmol after running bloods.

Can you give me a baseline?

What was interesting, a stopped training and supplementing for one week for vacation. My Bodyweight jumped 3-4 pounds up. But I didn’t eat that much, that this could be all fat. Now a week and a half back in training this weight doesn’t drop.

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You tried alpha T with it? Im currently using the combo of turk, ecdysterone and Alpha T

No, never seen that.

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So I got my hands on beta-acdysterone as well (240mgs / Cap). We will see how I progress. With turk only i think there was a slight push in weight…

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To get more clear and spare you looking through the full workout:

Workout in a homegym.

The FB setup wants me to rotate 4 exercises for each body part (2 heavy and 2 light): does the following count as variation:

1) Heavy Incline db press

2) Db press flat

3) Heavy db press flat (second time flat db press)

4) Decline cable press

for 3) I could maybe use a very very slight angle to make it a little bit inclined…

Same for some other muscles, where variation is a bit difficult.

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Oh I forgot to mention, in a few weeks I get ab belt squat. Think that could be very good for leg development because lower back won’t limit as with squat.

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By the above logic , we would only need 15g leucine a day to grow…..so now we can acknowledge thats silly

lets use common sense , its a meal that we are trying to replicate, so having as close to a full serving of protein is as ideal as possible, the min i would classify as a meal would be 20g , so having a serving and half of peak aminos would be a gd start point, or peak aminos + more regular eaa

I didn’t want to say we only need 15g Leucin. Just that 3g triggers MPS to mostly the max. Of course you need other aminos as well tu build new tissue.
Maybe my formulation of this was not on point (English not mother language).
And I do not know any Whey except one that gives about 3g Leucin in 20g protein.

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The 20gram for maxing out MPS is not correct. That was proven in studies where 20g Isolat contained 3g Leucin (must be spiked or super serum Whey?). Leucin triggers MPS.

Most eaa contain this 3g Leucin per serving. So you get the maxed MPS

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Yes. You can do a close grip press with a barbell , or a smith machine .
You can also do a JM press on a smith machine too , but that’s a different exercise. If you need to see it I can send you in DM , or better yet go to the video section and watch one of my delt & arms videos. 🙂[/quote]

This exercises is a beast. Strengthens the tris for pushing once you nailed execution.

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Dumbbel Bench Press
61 kg x 15 ++

DB High Incline Shoulder Press
36 kg x 18 ++

Jm Press
40 kg x 13 ++

Lat Pulldown Uni
50 kg x 22 ++

Dumbbel Upper back Row
56 kg x 22 ++

Cable Laterals
10 kg x 18
10 kg x 10

Baysian Curls
27,5 kg x 15 +

Lateral Tris
20 kg x 20 ++

Deadlift
170 kg x 7 ++
140 kg x 6

Bulgarian Split Squat
72 kg x 8 +

Enjoyed nice progress. New Setups for Push worked way better. Deadlifts also were really good. Second set was stiff legged.

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As it is maybe interesting for other trainees on Full Body I will try to log more detailed

Incline Dumbbel Press
61,25 kg x 11 +

High Incline Shoulder Press
56 kg x 10+

Chest Dip
100 kg x 10 ++

Parallel Pullup
110 kg x 4 +

Chest Supported Db Row
78 kg x 12 ++

Lateral Dumbbell Raise
29 kg x 12 ++
29 kg x 8

Pushdown Unilateral
27,5 kg x 6 –

Dumbbell Curl
19,5 kg x 8 ++
19,5 kg x 7

Nordic Curl
40 kg x 10 –

Sissy Squat
77 kg x 15 ++

Reverse Nordic Curl
45 kg x 15 +

Heel Touches
0 kg x 0
60 kg x 10
60 kg x 8

Was a good training. Changed my incline dumbbell press as @Oscar suggested and it worked way better. Also reduced load slightly on the first two push exercises.

I am curious when the Turk will kick in.

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oh if I could put on similar good 6 pounds, that would be a good thing.

They content states 500mg per cap. Didn’t find many threads here in regard to turkesteron and dosage, where would you start?

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The last push-up I got up about 25. pounds in weight but didn’t gain anything got injured in the process and lost all during the cut. Now with your training concept I gained the first 6 pounds literally without fat in 2-3 minths

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Hey Guys thanks again. It’s very nice to have knowledgable people here commenting on such things.

It’s strange that the screenshot isn’t displayed you you as I see it. I maybe try to upload it on YouTube and put it in here.

I will also do this tests with laying on the bench and see how far the hands go.

To the point with the push-ups in weight. I am about 3kg up in weight since mid october without getting much fatter, which for me is quite good and the first time in training really enjoying the process. Faster weight progress in the past always led to huge gains in fat and now with age of 35 I think it will become harder to loose it on parts like hips. The last bulk was from 80 to 92. The cut burned all muscle. Since my genetic baseline I am already approximately 20kg up. I am genetically not gifted, slim bone frame, fat storage mainly lower belly and hips. Also thin arms due to there length…)

it is perfectly clear if I want good looking 200+ pounds I cannot get this with a deficit. But it seems with Jordans training setup and the actual slight surplus I am making solid progress. Very good progress on pull, and slow progress on push with push always be slower (very long arms not the best structure). when this slows down I add calories.

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Hey Guys,

thought a lot about your tips and comments towards active range of motion. Looked up some videos.

I made a screenshot in the deepest portion of incline db pressing. The foto angle isn’t as good as I wish but to get it more clear: the handles are at chest level. The plates are below. The angle of the elbow is very sharp as I have long (fore)arms. The DBs are traveling miles to reach full contraction. it is not that I am very uncertain/unstable about the deepest position (as I have hooks that hold the DBs there) but it is not the most stable position. It gives me not the feeling that “I can fire the DBs ab with much intent” as it feels a bit wobbly.

So it would be possible to adjust the hooks higher in 2-3cm intervals.