[BrandonB]

Brandon,
This seems almost identical to how my body is reacting to the gear as well.. I have felt dizzy and my heart rate is elevated and irregular, this could all be to do with anxiety as well but I’m just worried that it’s possibly something worse, the worrying doesn’t help lol.

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Lewis

I had very minor anxiety in the past never caused me an issues at all. Once I got on it was terrible and keep in mind this is doctor dose legit test. I had one bad night that I though I had a heart attack, I was in bed for 2-3 days I was so dizzy. SInce then all labs, my echocardiogram ,and heart monitor all checked out good.

[BrandonB]

I forgot to mention my heart rate was elevated at some points 90-100 bpm (avg for me is around 60) no matter breathing exercises I did I could not catch my breath. I was also getting very dizzy at one point almost passing out.

Originally my doc had me on 100mg per week test e to start. After running bloods and on that dose for a few months he bumped me to 150wk changing my injections from once per week to 2. I was still feeling like shit almost unable to function. They I tried microdosing it was same.

If you do a search for anxiety in the forums you can see my post back from Sept. Andrew was a Great Help

[BrandonB]

Lewis,

I thought I was going crazy they all told me it’s not trt. After about 30-40 days off I finally started feeling normal again. It really was a terrible experience. I’m 42 in excrement health never any issues. I’ve been in the gym since I was 18 years old. That was my first experience with test/trt.

[BrandonB]

Hey Lewis,

Same exact thing was happening to me on TRT. I fr like absolute shit, crazy anxiety, heart palpitations i literally felt like I was going to die. I went off cold turkey as my TRT doc would not help.I went off and feel so much better. Unfortunately I cannot go back on.

[BrandonB]

@Andrew is it possible with fluctuating E2 levels that it could cause heart palpitations? Like I said I’ve been off now for about 10-11 days.

[BrandonB]

You are most welcome Brandon, I am glad I could be of some help. I would always try my best to help advise someone in your predicament or similar. If you ever have further questions just tag me in and I will respond
All the best
Andrew

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Disclaimer: Please note that the information provided in my post is for entertainment purposes only. I would vehemently recommend you always do your own research and entirely understand the ramifications of your actions. Always seek medical advice before you make a choice that will impact your health.

Andrew sorry I had one more question I’ve been on trt for approx 6 months. Coming off cold turkey how long until my normal test levels come back? I’ve never abused anything and have been a natural lifter all my life (24 years). When I went on TRT the doctor said I was just in low range, I’m 42 years old I am very dedicated 6 meals per day, 5 days a week in the gym. I’ve been off for about 10 days now, my testicals already seem to be back to normal size. TY

[BrandonB]

Thank you so much Andrew! Very much appreciated

[BrandonB]

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I live in Canada and it’s difficult to get bloods done without doctors req. With my heart rate I started in Feb he upped my dose 150 in June and it spiked

[BrandonB]

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[BrandonB]

Very strange.
Test gel ?
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No this is test Cyp from Doctor. [/quote]
@hilly  my hemoglobin was 168 just slightly high doctor said nothing to worry about. Like I said I’ve been off for a week now and feel much better. Have u even seen this before?[/quote]
Yes I have seen this before but not precipitated by the use of testosterone.
When anxiety is formed in your mind and the action is repeated so is this anxiety, the memory of the first heart pounding event is relived, thoughts escalate rapidly searching for a cause, and since you have just injected something into your body, the answer to the question anxiety is posing is that its the use of testosterone. However it could be independent of that, do you think if given test vs placebo you would get the same symptoms, my guess is you would get it either way.
Its easy to say, well pharmacologically testosterone does not do this, and to overcome your anxiety you must repeatedly expose yourself. However I believe this is unnecessary punishment if you can tolerate coming off TRT.
Like I said before, this is very real for you and as such you should do what is in your best interest. Has there been any changes in circumstances in your life ?
Personal question, feel free to ignore, but when you have continued savage anxiety I think there is something more to it than testosterone. Would consider using some form of calming aid to relax you when you do have shot to see the anxiety for what it is and let it pass ? Not that I would normally recommend doing this but TRT usually is life long commitment, but like i said i may not be for you
All the best
Regards
Andrew
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I’ve tried lorazepam it didn’t work, like I said I’m off now for a week and feel better.  The heart palpitations really worried me. I do have recents bloods if you’d like to see them. [/quote]
Lorazepam is a potent anxiolytic medication that would generally alleviate your symptoms if given in an adequate dosage, I rather not speak of numbers on the forum-as I believe in strongly assessing the benefits/costs of benzodiazepines, I am sure you doctor provided dosage recommendations, Lorazepam is normally formulated in 2 strength with the higher dose being an exceptionally potent anxiolytic in those naive to such a dose. It is provided as rapid tranquillisation in acutely psychotic patients in psych hospitals- in the UK its the go-to regarding severe agitation. Anyway I am rambling
Potentially you could speak to your doctor about the use of beta-blockers-propranolol is a potent competitive antagonist for adrenalin/noradrenaline-essentially stops adrenalin sending its message to the CNS. Works well for hypotension (blood pressure) and tachycardia (heart rate exceeding 100).
It seems that if your blood results are in a healthy range it probably won’t be too revealing, but may help. I think relating to the concerns regarding your heart it would be prudent to speak to your doctor about and ECG/EKG-to identify an abnormal rhythm and chest x-ray which could identify left ventricular hypertrophy relating to athletic development/PED use etc This may seem a little excessive I am just thinking of your heart health.
If you have stopped and you feel better, then maybe this is an obvious way forward, in the UK TRT is administered every 12 weeks-but that might be an awful drawn-out process if it doesn’t suit, and as Hilly mentioned maybe testo gel would be subtle and avoiding injections.
Maybe some calming supplementation such as; L-theanine 200MG, Ashwaghada (KSM-66 Patended version) 600MG, Magnesium Bisglycinate 500MG
These supplements are very helpful and backed by a lot of science
Hope I can be of some help-any questions please ask
Regards
Andrew

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Thank you so much Andrew, I feel so much better. How long until the test Cyp completely leaves my system. I’ve read 20-29 days? My GP told me to just stop and nothing will happen eventually my test level will come back. It’s been 1 week and my libido is still there. He said my dose was so low that normal levels will come back. Attached are my bloods and the Pfizer customer Instructions which call out some of my symptoms as well as my bloods from a few days ago. I wear an Apple Watch and there’s a clear indication from the month I started TRT and my resting heart rate. Typically in the low 50’s now low 70’s. I’d imagine that will also come down once my test levels come down.

[BrandonB]

Very strange.
Test gel ?
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No this is test Cyp from Doctor. [/quote]
@hilly  my hemoglobin was 168 just slightly high doctor said nothing to worry about. Like I said I’ve been off for a week now and feel much better. Have u even seen this before?[/quote]
Yes I have seen this before but not precipitated by the use of testosterone.
When anxiety is formed in your mind and the action is repeated so is this anxiety, the memory of the first heart pounding event is relived, thoughts escalate rapidly searching for a cause, and since you have just injected something into your body, the answer to the question anxiety is posing is that its the use of testosterone. However it could be independent of that, do you think if given test vs placebo you would get the same symptoms, my guess is you would get it either way.
Its easy to say, well pharmacologically testosterone does not do this, and to overcome your anxiety you must repeatedly expose yourself. However I believe this is unnecessary punishment if you can tolerate coming off TRT.
Like I said before, this is very real for you and as such you should do what is in your best interest. Has there been any changes in circumstances in your life ?
Personal question, feel free to ignore, but when you have continued savage anxiety I think there is something more to it than testosterone. Would consider using some form of calming aid to relax you when you do have shot to see the anxiety for what it is and let it pass ? Not that I would normally recommend doing this but TRT usually is life long commitment, but like i said i may not be for you
All the best
Regards
Andrew

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Disclaimer: Please note that the information provided in my post is for entertainment purposes only. I would vehemently recommend you always do your own research and entirely understand the ramifications of your actions. Always seek medical advice before you make a choice that will impact your health.

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I’ve tried lorazepam it didn’t work, like I said I’m off now for a week and feel better. The heart palpitations really worried me. I do have recents bloods if you’d like to see them.

[BrandonB]

Very strange.
Test gel ?

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No this is test Cyp from Doctor. [/quote]
@hilly my hemoglobin was 168 just slightly high doctor said nothing to worry about. Like I said I’ve been off for a week now and feel much better. Have u even seen this before?

[BrandonB]

Very strange.
Test gel ?

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No this is test Cyp from Doctor.

[BrandonB]

You potentially may have an allergy to the carriers oil ( eg Arachis/ peanut oil in Sustanon) or the excipients, the ester is removed from testosterone via hydrolysis and test cyp (olive oil/low BA) had a carboxylic acid ester which may cause some irritation which is then perpetuated by your anxiety, and its a self-fulfilling prophecy that as it happened last week as such it will it be this week, on and on the weeks go this builds to a point of acute ‘anxiety’. I would ask to be changed onto a different formulation or stay at 100mg if you can tolerate that dosage.
Irrespective of if its this medication that is causing anxiety, it is very real for you and I get that, so you should definitely consult with the prescribing doctor to discuss your concerns. Try to find ways of distraction in the short term and then when you spoken with the doc take it from there.
Hope this helps
Andrew

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Andrew I had my bloods done and all checked out well, however I lowered my dosage back to 100/wk and feel terrible. Same side effects, rapid heart rate, heart palpitations. So my GP advised me to stay off for a week to see how I feel, all sides went away. Is it possible some people are just not good candidates for TRT? He’s had me on both Cyp and Enth. & both had same effects, at some points of the day I had to stay in bed I was so dizzy. [/quote]
Have u tried splitting up injects into smaller amounts.
50mg MWF

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Hello @hilly I have Monday – Thursday, One a week and 3 times and same issues. It’s a terrible feeling heart racing 90 beats a minute and getting heart palpitations. Not taking any other drugs/meds. I had my bloods done and all checked out ok. It’s been about a week since my last injection (doctor told me to stop) and the heart palpitations have stopped and my blood pressure/ heart rate is slowly coming back down.

[BrandonB]

You potentially may have an allergy to the carriers oil ( eg Arachis/ peanut oil in Sustanon) or the excipients, the ester is removed from testosterone via hydrolysis and test cyp (olive oil/low BA) had a carboxylic acid ester which may cause some irritation which is then perpetuated by your anxiety, and its a self-fulfilling prophecy that as it happened last week as such it will it be this week, on and on the weeks go this builds to a point of acute ‘anxiety’. I would ask to be changed onto a different formulation or stay at 100mg if you can tolerate that dosage.
Irrespective of if its this medication that is causing anxiety, it is very real for you and I get that, so you should definitely consult with the prescribing doctor to discuss your concerns. Try to find ways of distraction in the short term and then when you spoken with the doc take it from there.
Hope this helps
Andrew

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Disclaimer: Please note that the information provided in my post is for entertainment purposes only. I would vehemently recommend you always do your own research and entirely understand the ramifications of your actions. Always seek medical advice before you make a choice that will impact your health.

Andrew I had my bloods done and all checked out well, however I lowered my dosage back to 100/wk and feel terrible. Same side effects, rapid heart rate, heart palpitations. So my GP advised me to stay off for a week to see how I feel, all sides went away. Is it possible some people are just not good candidates for TRT? He’s had me on both Cyp and Enth. & both had same effects, at some points of the day I had to stay in bed I was so dizzy.