Brandon
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Just thought I’d throw my experience out there. First week trying out LGD 4033 at 10mg a day pre workout and all I can say is wow. Definitely feel a lot fuller, stronger and more energized in the gym. Nothing else has changed food, cardio, supplements etc. just added this is and so far it’s been great. Will keep you up to date as I continue
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Hi @drdeanstmart any supplementation to bring CRP levels down? No signs of infection in body after testing so been training as normal With cardio 6 days a week
From my knowledge and experience, training alone is going to elevate inflammation in the body due to muscle being broken down etc. most suggest to take 3 or so days completely off gym then get it tested as this allows for inflammation to subside.
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Agree with all the above answer BUT… don’t go thinking you can do this every day and get away with it!!!
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This website g2g for pharmacom??
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I prefer IM
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You notice a difference between sub q and IM? [/quote]
Lol does any one notice anything When taking GH in general lol.
It makes sense to me scientifically To take IM.
However the only things we notice on Gh
Increase In fasted BG
Increase in hair / nail growth
Better sleep
Slight water gain
I notice no difference In but I wouldn’t Expect to in those instances._________________________________________
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Well today I decided to give the IM a go instead of sub q. Split the dose in half so each leg would get equivalent amount (pinned quads). It was leg day so I figured if I’m gonna do any muscle I’ll do what I’m training. Plus I’v been dealing with a knee injury so I’m hoping it can have so localized effect as rich piana did this and swore by it when he had his knee injury. Anyways, legs definitely felt a lot fuller and more pumped during the workout. Placebo or not I’ll stick with it and see how it goes. -
Has anyone tried their HGH? Pharmatropin?? Any good?
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@jordan-peters
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über pharma if someone needs A source….
Does your source ship to USA?
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Agreed. Greg doucette is the go to for sarms info. NO B.S. and keeps it real. Trust him 100% when it comes to this topic.
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This sounds ludacris to me.
Do you have science to back up the fact Long acting insulin puts your pancreas to sleep lol ????
I do agree fats should be kept lower but insulin main job is to shuttle carbs. Fats sill be stored as fat no matter what by the body as we are always producing insulin when eating Normal combined meal. Just less than what we inject.
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when im talking about long acting slin puting your pancreas to sleep im not talking about 10 or 20 iu of lantus a day. it obviously has to be enough to trigger the negative feedback loop, but thats what a lot of people do (at least thats what they tell me, they are doing). 50-70 iu of long acting insulin are no rarity and if you are stacking short acting insulin in top, there is a good chance that your pancreas won’t secrete insulin anymore, which will be very unhealthy over time . i should have been more precise with my answer, sorry! i thought about high doses straight away.
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Even at the higher doses in yet to see how it would make the pancreas lazy.
I do get your train of thought. If injecting enough then maybe the pancreas will stop working n maybe not start again. A bit like the HPTA.
However we’re is there any evidence or suggestion of this. Not saying it can’t happen but id be very hard pushed to believe there is any evidence to show this may happen.
I would love to see it if so
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Agree with you. I’ve done tones of research on it since this thread was opened and have yet to find anything supporting that claim. I have also asked a few specialists and my doctor and all of them say that it doesn’t put the pancreas to sleep since there is no negative feedback loop. [/quote]
there is a negativ feedback loop whith every hormone in the body!!!
thats the first thing that pops up when i google :
“insulin negative feedback loop”
Insulin and glucagon work in a so called negative feedback loop. During this process, one event triggers another, which triggers another, and so on, to keep your blood sugar levels balanced. Once blood sugar levels reach homeostasis, the pancreas stops releasing insulin.
your body will notice exogenous insulin and will stop producing endogenous insulin if enought exogenous insulin is present to deal with the raise in blood sugar. if the amount of sugar is higher than the amount of exogenous insulin can cover, your body will produce endogenous insulin to brin bloodsugar levels further down.
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Yes but no we’re at all
Is there any thing to say the pancreas stops working because it’s given a break.
Actual fact is lantus only works for 12 hours actively n it’s a steady release.
So when one takes in higher carb meal your own pancreas will likely need to kick out extra.
Never mind the hours it isn’t working.
It’s very improbable our pancreas will our out 0 insulin over 24 hours.
There is also 0 evidence I have seen showing this would cause the pancrease to become lazy.
We know it can become lazy from over use – type 2 diabetes
But from under use I’m sure no one actually knows ???? Unless there is research I havnt seen
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yes and no ????
it depends on the amount of basal insulin and the amount of carbs you are eating and if you are using additional short acting insulin with your meals.
i havent had the time to dig through studies yet but if the pancreas behaves like every other gland in the body, there will be a period of very low production post medium-long term use. by the end of the week i should have some more time to spend on looking through studied so bare with me ????_________________________________________
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Lol this is going to be a never ending debate but I love it. Let’s keep learning!But in all seriousness I do completely agree with holly on this subject…
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This sounds ludacris to me.
Do you have science to back up the fact Long acting insulin puts your pancreas to sleep lol ????
I do agree fats should be kept lower but insulin main job is to shuttle carbs. Fats sill be stored as fat no matter what by the body as we are always producing insulin when eating Normal combined meal. Just less than what we inject.
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http://www.trainedbyjp-nutrition.com – highest quality supplements on the market.[/quote]
when im talking about long acting slin puting your pancreas to sleep im not talking about 10 or 20 iu of lantus a day. it obviously has to be enough to trigger the negative feedback loop, but thats what a lot of people do (at least thats what they tell me, they are doing). 50-70 iu of long acting insulin are no rarity and if you are stacking short acting insulin in top, there is a good chance that your pancreas won’t secrete insulin anymore, which will be very unhealthy over time . i should have been more precise with my answer, sorry! i thought about high doses straight away._________________________________________
e-mail: avatarderboss@hotmail.de
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Even at the higher doses in yet to see how it would make the pancreas lazy.
I do get your train of thought. If injecting enough then maybe the pancreas will stop working n maybe not start again. A bit like the HPTA.
However we’re is there any evidence or suggestion of this. Not saying it can’t happen but id be very hard pushed to believe there is any evidence to show this may happen.
I would love to see it if so_________________________________________
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Agree with you. I’ve done tones of research on it since this thread was opened and have yet to find anything supporting that claim. I have also asked a few specialists and my doctor and all of them say that it doesn’t put the pancreas to sleep since there is no negative feedback loop. -
If insulin use is sparing.. say pre show diet to help fill you out here and there then some fat in the meals is no biggy. just don’t do it all the time.. I often have had meals that a moderate in fat with slin … never mega does and never when I’m not pretty depleted
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I assume you are referring to the original post talking about fast acting insulin with meals and not a long acting like lantus?
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with a long aycting insulin like lantus or levemir, this would be even worse because its working around the clock. if you are using a short acting insulin, you can at least eat fats the first part of the day (if you are training in the afternoon). also, the use if a long acting insulin is pretty unhealthy because it puts your pancreas to sleep. the use of long acting slin not something i personally would recommend unless you have a very experienced coach (like milos). i know that jordan also doesnt like the idea of using it.
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This sounds ludacris to me.
Do you have science to back up the fact Long acting insulin puts your pancreas to sleep lol ????
I do agree fats should be kept lower but insulin main job is to shuttle carbs. Fats sill be stored as fat no matter what by the body as we are always producing insulin when eating Normal combined meal. Just less than what we inject._________________________________________
Instagram name – Hillydoc. http://Www.physique-enhancement.co.uk | http://www.trainedbyjpclothing.com – The most anabolic clothing ever! |
http://www.trainedbyjp-nutrition.com – highest quality supplements on the market.
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This is exactly what I was thinking… Correct me if I’m wrong but all lantus does is basically act as a “boost” to your own production of insulin as it is slowly and steadily released through 24 hours…?
Also, how much fat would you consider to be a good amount if using lantus? How low would be too low and how high would be too high?
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Lantus – if this acts like our body then why do we feel we should worry about fats per meal.
My comment was if one is using log with meals etc.
If our body works producing insulin all day n we are not concerned with how much fat we eat normally.
Why with insulin ?
I would be Sticking to my normal fat intake which is 50-80g daily.
I also use lantus later in the day with my gh so if fats are higher I take them earlier in the day_________________________________________
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@drdeanstmart SHBG came back at 57. Was wondering what I can do to help lower this. Estradiol was also at 64 pmol/L