[Brandon]

Andrew , I love that you share , but we have to smash those posts with tons of disclaimers to try to scare people off like Brandon who I can tell is already thinking about trying this when I know he is not even close to needing to consider it.
Brandon, put on 30-40 pounds of muscle with just moderate aas doses and then revisit this please . Same for everyone else
The post Andrew has put up is basically what Jamie and Kuba did in offseason ( pros ) , I don’t because my gut wouldn’t handle it but I have essentially done it with Milos in the past just excluding the long slin . Please please please don’t be idiots guys , this stuff won’t make you grow faster before you need it , and need is such a ridiculous word also , no one needs it . So , want it ….

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Lol NO JP!!! Not a chance in hell I would try this!!! Not at all!!! I was honestly just curious about it as I have never seen this before.

I just love to learn and try to acquire as much knowledge as possible. Hence the reason I am constantly asking questions.

[Brandon]

Interesting @hilly,
to take it a little step further you could consider that GH is only 1 component of the ‘growth’ attributed to the physical development of the structures of the body. So in theory, don’t quote me on this, but the GH is released every 3-5 hours by a series of nerve cells on the anterior lobe of the pituitary/and blood flow increase in a network of vessels which run down the pituitary stalk. Either way a significant dose of GH every 5 hours, the resensitisation of cells regards to GH is about 3-5 (I think, I have the papers somewhere) regarding lipid mobilisation, however as Stephan mentioned in his advanced GH video, even though GH has relatively short half-life thus excreted from the body quite quiclkly, its metabolic effects remain present for longer than the active life of GH.
I don’t wish to be suggestive but with such a dose of GH, Basal and bolus insulin could be implemented, to maximise IGF production in the liver (also you would want e2 to be toward the top end of the range in the construction of such an environment/AI use limited and e2 controlled with DHT-high dose proviron 100-150mg if needed, Materon p/e) this would drive mTOR which with the carbohydrate intake a combined intake of an unrivalled amount of protein could be consumed say 750grams p/d (use great tasting whey iso with 4 scoops, normal protein absorption rates at this point are unfathomable). You could use Lantus (Levermir if you must be can cause vision problems) Aspart/Lispro /glulisine around your workouts semi-Milos style with EAA’s/BCAA’s/Highly Branched Cyclic Dextrin, but not quite as extreme. Novorapid the rest of your meals, you want the insulin to match the carbohydrate intake,not eating/drinking carbs to fill and insulin debt. At this point our theoretical bodybuilder may want quater/half tab of dyazide to pull some water off (which will huge)to reduce blood volume partially preventing rapidly increased demand on the heart. If not blood pressure will creep/skyrocket, you could use an ACE-Inhibitor-Lisinopril fits the bill, but prevention is cheaper than the cure, its a dangerous balance. An understanding of kidney function and mineral balance is imperative (hypothetically).
When I read some Duchaine’s stuff (ok I know I’m crazy, but I’m too curious) he talked of a preemptive period. Where body fat would be controlled he suggested 12% on calipers, I reckon you can run it higher than that but that further the increase the worse the trade-off, an inverse exponential relationship, more fat for less muscle at an increasing rate, and you can’t flex fat:) Ducahine suggested DNP/Metformin combo, can see how the mix would work,but obviously unnecessarily dangerous at this point. IMO all you need is the hypocaloric’s state greatest weapon, diet and cardio .
As I have expressed before bodybuilding is about chipping away,small gains made indefinitely, not big jumps, unless towards the start of using AAS or anything thing similar, this is just a scientific suggestion of what ‘child-like growth spurt’ could be like if implemented using the miracle of modern pharmacology (obviously completely theoretical). These ideas lie on a continuum, and this is just science, abuse of the ideas will not only be abdominally detrimental but a major risk to your health.
Sorry about the rant fellas-Modafinil too late in the day- This is a theoretical idea, not to be tried, however I welcome anyone who wishes to discuss these crazy ideas ?
All the best fellas-Stay safe
Regards
Andrew

lol this completely blew my mind and I have no idea what was just said?

But I do have a question. When getting bloods done to test hgh, obviously getting igf1 test done, is there a certain protocol you would recommend? If taking 2iu am and 2iu pm daily, on the day of bloods would I just take my regular 2iu in the am and then get igf1 tested? Or take a bolus amount before test?

Also does this need to be faster like almost all other bloodwork or could I do it later in the day if I’m only testing igf1?

[Brandon]

Generally agree with Brandon, they definitely did use to be sis labs, its relabelled generic GH
Pharmaqo are staking their reputation on the product and thus obviously are those involved, due you trust them as much as the backers of pfizer ? ok its an extreme example but my point is do you trust the integrity of this lab to be able to sequence 191 amino acids rDNA from mice or e.coli? People test generics and they come back good, many people use them and you dont hear horror stories, but the point is your taking a punt. At this point, if you need/want GH I personally would only take tested or free generics. Then Ansomone, you can talk to them and they seem very open if you get my point. Then pharma
Hope this helps
Andrew

Lol I think anyone would take free generics regardless ? just resell if anything!

[Brandon]

h is wayyyy over thinking like I said not to lol.
I do try to be how I recommend but these things slip through.
it
Made me laugh my myself lol
Great post as always

Genuinely made me laugh, because I then thought ‘well it depends on the GH, do I trust the anti-microbial capacity of pharma but not generic?’, but then I’m going back and forth with myself.
Essentially, there are so many ways to skin a cat
Do whatever consistently works for you consistently (lol)
I’m trying to think of the whacky/stupid ideas I have heard thrown around about GH. GH intravenously! GH blasts! 32iu a day for as long as you can handle/afford it, the list goes on. I can imagine someone could provide an argument for some of the afromentioned [/quote]
I’ve done a gh blast before. The theory is to mimic a growth spurt as a child etc.
The theory I read was
Day 1 – 10iu
Day 2 – 20iu
Day 3 – 20iu
Day 4 – 20iu
Day 5 – 30iu
I blew up like crazy – my mum actually said walking in the kitchen – Peter what the xxxx. ??
I did keep some of the weight to. Was interesting.
I think timed at the start of end of an over reaching phase may have some merit. Possibly.
Once I can go back on AAS etc I may try it again lol.
The guy I spoke to would do it at the start of each month.

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Holy shit!!!? that is crazy!!!! How much did the weight go up and then how much was lost afte those 5 days? And how was recovery when you did this!? I’d actually really be interested for you to break down how you split the doses etc.

[Brandon]

Cycle change 14/08/2020
750 test
700 tren a
600 mast e
100 anavar pre workout only
25 proviron daily
T3 37.5
50mg anadrol split 25 am 25 pm
Aromasin only when needed once a week if that same with caber

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What lan for var and anadrol are you using?

[Brandon]

Hey kuba do you personally ever add in anavar during prep? Or do you prefer to use a different oral? What would you use instead?

[Brandon]

38 pieces of sushi , I usually count these as like 10c each , and then whatever fats from the salmon etc . That was easy to eat , so let’s see how the stomach holds up . The last high day was painful all night , after pushing up so many times my g.i is truly wrecked lol

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Ahhh common JP!!! Dusty would have smashed you in that sushi eating!? 38 pieces would be his appetizer

[Brandon]

Stick to ansomone, jintropin Russian or if you can get real pharma then that is always best, geno, nordi, huma

[Brandon]

SynPharma or IP ?

You used var from either? If so which did you like best?

[Brandon]

Could be but I also think a lot of this water retention rep it gets is due to it being claimed as an offseason compound and when in offseason it’s usually run with high test which holds water and also eating lots of food…

[Brandon]

I was anxious when heard Bayer stopped producing proviron think apparently it’s to do with them pushing out another drug to replace it? Doubt it’s nebido which is long half life injectables test undecanote or something like that
I think my proviron by Bayer is expiring 2021/2022.03 I will check. They are Turkish.

Can you post a pic of it?

[Brandon]

Agree 300-400mg will be sufficient for first time and you will definitely notice it!! That’s exactly what I ran first time adding it in as a second compound after. Doing only test for my first few cycles and damn it made a huge difference!!!

[Brandon]

Hey,
I would personally drop the EQ if adding in tren. A big cycle like that could bring about more sides so that will ultimately dictate how long you can run a course for. Less for longer is better in my opinion. You will need regular blood work to see when to pull back.

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Why drop the eq because adding tren?

[Brandon]

Surely there can be an issue there with cutting pills. As in- the compound isn’t distributed linearly across the whole tablet. So each 1/4 isn’t identical?

Real pharmaceutical grade will be distributed evenly. Especially if splitting into 1/2 because it is scored down the middle which is intend to be there so you are able to cut the tab in half

[Brandon]

25mcg T3 and 100mcg t4 can definitely be run for hormone replacement. Since your using T3 you technically do not need to t4 but if you want to keep it it then you can definitely do so