[Brian Au]

Your Tie in are coming in fast after a couple of changes Kuba made!! Looking awesome!

Just wondering why primo instead of Anavar ? And are you doing oral form or Inj ?

Hey Brian!

Thankyou! That is my stubborn area, so I am praying it will be much sharper come show day 🙏🏼 thankyou!

I forgot to add on my log that 5mg anavar has now been added this week. I have used both primo and anavar seperately in previous preps, and they both give a different look on the physique.

It is inj primo, I did use oral throughout the back end of prep last year but kuba has done some research and says I won’t be using oral primo again.

Thankyou for following my log! Any more questions please fire away 😁[/quote]

Thank you for the reply! Would you mind sharing what are the negative impact on using oral primo instead of Inj?

Do you think a SERM or anti Estrogen can help with more fat loss with glutes?

Sorry if this is too much to discuss on the forum but is interesting to read the approach of a U.K. bikini athlete compared to what we do here in Asia / US 🙂 [/quote]

I can chime in here, oral primo

Has super low bioavailability. Pretty much a waste of time using it. If we are going to use primo use the real deal that will do what it is intended

Serm or ai do not help with fat loss at all, they just crash estrogen which then will inhibit fat loss / muscle gain and not to mention it will actually flatten most females so so condition worn show

USA and Asia I have seen ridiculous approaches that not only harm long term but never really bring a good physique outcome. Bro science at its finest [/quote]
Thank you Kuba🙏🏻

And yes in China and korea I have seen bikini girls on Tren and in USA they pop Letrozole like candies😂

Thanks for the insight

[Brian Au]

Your Tie in are coming in fast after a couple of changes Kuba made!! Looking awesome!

Just wondering why primo instead of Anavar ? And are you doing oral form or Inj ?

Hey Brian!

Thankyou! That is my stubborn area, so I am praying it will be much sharper come show day 🙏🏼 thankyou!

I forgot to add on my log that 5mg anavar has now been added this week. I have used both primo and anavar seperately in previous preps, and they both give a different look on the physique.

It is inj primo, I did use oral throughout the back end of prep last year but kuba has done some research and says I won’t be using oral primo again.

Thankyou for following my log! Any more questions please fire away 😁[/quote]
Thank you for the reply! Would you mind sharing what are the negative impact on using oral primo instead of Inj?

Do you think a SERM or anti Estrogen can help with more fat loss with glutes?

Sorry if this is too much to discuss on the forum but is interesting to read the approach of a U.K. bikini athlete compared to what we do here in Asia / US 🙂

[Brian Au]

Your Tie in are coming in fast after a couple of changes Kuba made!! Looking awesome!

Just wondering why primo instead of Anavar ? And are you doing oral form or Inj ?

[Brian Au]

Hi kuba, will you supplement thyroids with 8iu GH ? In the past I know Jordan is an advocate for this (not sure if he changed his view) and just wondering yours and Stefans approach ! Thanks

I think to start with no but I’m sure @stefan will add t4 if needed or have his reason behind not using t4 at moment

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I see! In his GH video in the education series he did mention he’d rather save it for prep, thanks for the info!

[Brian Au]

Hi kuba, will you supplement thyroids with 8iu GH ? In the past I know Jordan is an advocate for this (not sure if he changed his view) and just wondering yours and Stefans approach ! Thanks

[Brian Au]

Hi Stefan
I’m approaching into the final week now and I feel that most of my body part are now in great condition but my quads are lacking behind , they seemed to be watery all the time, I’m doing quite a bit of cardio I’m sure I will back it off closer to show but do you think In this instance dropping test prop and GH a week out can help with conditioning in watery body part ?
Thank you!

For legs its always essential for me to give them enough rest! 1 week out i skip cardio and have the last leg day! I also drop test and gh, but more necesarry is to get the legs rested

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Thank you! I am still 7.8 lbs from my weight cap so skipping it totally might be a problem
But I will drop test and gh, if I feel fullness fades too much I can always do test suspension when I load right ?? [/quote]
Usually when you drop cardio you drop about 1-2kg depends how much water you have.

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Nice!

Coach pulled my cardio down to 30 mins

Let’s see how it goes!

Thank you!

[Brian Au]

Hi Stefan
I’m approaching into the final week now and I feel that most of my body part are now in great condition but my quads are lacking behind , they seemed to be watery all the time, I’m doing quite a bit of cardio I’m sure I will back it off closer to show but do you think In this instance dropping test prop and GH a week out can help with conditioning in watery body part ?
Thank you!

For legs its always essential for me to give them enough rest! 1 week out i skip cardio and have the last leg day! I also drop test and gh, but more necesarry is to get the legs rested

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Instagram @bossofoutlaw – http://www.bodyconsultants.at

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Thank you! I am still 7.8 lbs from my weight cap so skipping it totally might be a problem

But I will drop test and gh, if I feel fullness fades too much I can always do test suspension when I load right ??

[Brian Au]

Hi Stefan

I’m approaching into the final week now and I feel that most of my body part are now in great condition but my quads are lacking behind , they seemed to be watery all the time, I’m doing quite a bit of cardio I’m sure I will back it off closer to show but do you think In this instance dropping test prop and GH a week out can help with conditioning in watery body part ?

Thank you!

[Brian Au]

Will be interesting to know how you peaked Fabi!!! I assume very minimal diuretic like maybe touch of Dyazide before bed? Dude looks off the hook !

[Brian Au]

He looks peeled!!!!! Good luck to him man!’

[Brian Au]

Hi Stefan hope you having a great start of the year!
I am transitioning from a contest prep blast into a cruise with 125mg TE once every 5 days , I’m not using any AI but I can feel a lot of Estrogen related sides like water retention (diet been clean!) especially in my face , not using HCG at the moment
Do you recommend adding in tamoxifen ? If so 20mg a day is that too much ? Do you recommend HCG too ?
I know best thing to do is to do blood work but blood work in my country is a pain in the ass , just checking Estrogen alone will cost me 200 euro with 3 weeks wait time on results …and I plan to do a full check up 8 weeks into the cruise but I want to deal with the Estrogen related sides first before I do the test

Thank you!!

Hi Brian!
If you used an ai in prep that might be a estro rebound from removing it. In that cases it could be nice to use low dose aromasin which is a suicide ai and inhibit aromates until its build up again.
Clomifen would do nothing concerning that it wont remove any estrogen. Also hcg which i never use cause i dont like thst growth factor on testicles for health reason.
But on the end of the day if you has been shredded its just the body which compensates and stores more water which is sometimes just normal and it takes time until body is back in homöosthasis.
So only checking estro in blood will show you if its related to that

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Yes yes ! I certainly used an AI on prep and is 100% an Estrogen rebound , the cruise have been 4 weeks now and I still haven’t reached homeostasis hence I’m thinking aromasin as an option

I’m thinking 12.5mg 2 times a week in this case and check my blood in 4 weeks time✋????

[Brian Au]

Hi Stefan hope you having a great start of the year!

I am transitioning from a contest prep blast into a cruise with 125mg TE once every 5 days , I’m not using any AI but I can feel a lot of Estrogen related sides like water retention (diet been clean!) especially in my face , not using HCG at the moment

Do you recommend adding in tamoxifen ? If so 20mg a day is that too much ? Do you recommend HCG too ?

I know best thing to do is to do blood work but blood work in my country is a pain in the ass , just checking Estrogen alone will cost me 200 euro with 3 weeks wait time on results …and I plan to do a full check up 8 weeks into the cruise but I want to deal with the Estrogen related sides first before I do the test

Thank you!!

[Brian Au]

Wohoooooo!!
Eric and Klaus got officially accepted at the Arnolds in Ohio. I’m super proud!

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Congrats stefan!! Another big year ahead for you!

[Brian Au]

the classic set up is
16 weeks
test prop mostly 100mg ed
tren ace and drosta dosage depending between 50 and 100mg ed
letrozol 2,5mg eod
t3 between 10 and 30mcg
t4 between 50 and 150mcg
clen between 80 and 160 mcg
ketotifen 2mg
10 weeks out
30mg anavar
4-8 weeks out
50 winstrol
last week proviron instead of test
concerning winstrol i mostly go for oral cause most of the injectibles are crap these days. if its injectible, you con drink it the last week as its 17 alpha alcylated.

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Oh my god that saves a lot of pain!!!

Yea the pip is not pleasant at all????

The Stefan set up looks very effective!! Love it!

[Brian Au]

What’s the classic Stefan set up ????Btw Stefan one question, if Your athlete is running Aqua Winstrol , would you drop it out couple days before the show to prevent bad jab? Would you advise dropping it or keeping it in? Thanks!