[Christian]

Hey Buddy, i agree With Sas here i think this was excessive to say the least as a 1st cycle. I think you could still be making some really good progress with less and something that is going to be less harsh on your blood work personally.
When you say you added EQ in your first cycle to cover aroma? can you expand here please? A little confused to why you would add EQ to cover aromatisation? Were you taking any AI’s? just looking at your HDL here.
I think Hilly is on the right track also 250-300mg Test E and 200mg Mast/Primo to start would be a solid cycle to build from. I don’t think you would need much more than this if everything is on point.
And a little tidy up phase would be my advice too. Dropping some body-fat would put you in a better position to start.

Nath

I didn’t take any AI’s, and the EQ alone dropped me from I think 53 E2 to 15. Didn’t feel great. My HDL was crap to begin with at 36 precycle, added in a lot more veggies/better food during cycle and I believe that’s why I only dropped to 35 throughout.

I think I’ll take your guys advice, drop to that 250-300 Test E and 200 Mast, and go from there. Aside from that I’ll try and drop back down to 205-210lb (-10-15lb) or so before I start up.

[Christian]

Are you able to post pics?

Are they viewable now?

[Christian]

Its hard to advise on drugs as we have no on cycle bloods.

It looks like you need to focus on bringing HDL up – Trainedbyjp Love heart and omega pro here IMO.

I would simply run the Test and mast at the beginning dose – Get bloods done at week 6 and asses progress.

I also feel dropping some body fat first would make sense IMO

Yeah, the HDL was why I added in my second post. I’m in no hurry to get things going, and I’d rather make sure everything is in a good spot to start than jump into it and have to climb out (especially BF wise).

Do you have a recommendation/guess on how much you would think would be ideal to drop to?

[Christian]

I have say you’re not on the right track…

I think you can repeat first cycle, minus the eq and gain even more… I’m not sure why people jump to such dosages as 1st / 2nd cycles these days…

Why eq added to first cycle?

As you say “with least amount of drugs possible, as healthy as”….

Think longevity AND health AND quality muscle bud, this is by no means me being negative, it’s experience so I hope you take note

300-400 test ONLY and then MAYBE 100-200 primo if you need it down there line during this next cycle.
I double you even need primo.

Hope this helps

Hey, I mean that’s why I’m here. Added in EQ mainly as a source to cover aroma, but actually ended up hating it, felt like shit with my E2 the way it was at the end.

I’ll take everything you said into consideration, for a solo test would I titrate that up over the length? Or just start 300-400 and run 300 for 10-16 weeks?

[Christian]

Attached photos of current physique.

Aside from what’s mentioned above, I’m in no rush to start this next cycle and There are some things I’d obviously like to get figured out (actually have a post in the health section about it)

[Christian]

I can’t see any pictures either

Posted the bloodwork from my phone, not sure if it changed the photos viewability

[Christian]

I can’t see any pictures either

Wait of the original bloodwork? Or my replies photos?[/quote]
Can you see these?