[M]

I’ve seen a lab result from the Medicare and heard decent feedback

Thank you, Hilly. I trust the lab result was decent?

[M]

Really enjoyed the live last night. Was cool to hear you talk through your current state of mind and how you had almost been trying to force yourself down a route that didn’t bring you proper happiness, but now seem to have a clearer and more rational outlook.

In the period where you were just running 250 test per week. Am I right in thinking you were using Aromasin? How much were you using to have your estro at the range it was? (Think it was 60/70). Thank you!

[M]

Blood work is back and all checks out I had these done when I was poorly hence why alt reading is super high, Dave confirmed so all good. I use EVAL for blood work always
Will re do again in 6 weeks anyways like i always do ?
Megs blood work is back and is legit perfect so happy days

I’m slightly confused by this and may be missing something, but this testosterone level is from 437.5 Test per week (62.5 ed)? Is that not quite low? [/quote]

No that’s about right what 400’mg will yield [/quote]

Interesting. Must be very individual to you. I don’t see this consensus generally. [/quote]

Md I stand corrected I was using under dosed bad batch of test that was going around which means I’ve done my whole rebound on 150 mg test total rather than 425 mg ….. this further highlights to me how low I can get away with going gear wise and grow [/quote]
Makes a lot more sense! Glad you’ve got it sorted now. Definitely an accidental positive as you say lol. Is the lower estro in the new results just from adding the primo in?

[M]

Blood work is back and all checks out I had these done when I was poorly hence why alt reading is super high, Dave confirmed so all good. I use EVAL for blood work always
Will re do again in 6 weeks anyways like i always do ?
Megs blood work is back and is legit perfect so happy days

I’m slightly confused by this and may be missing something, but this testosterone level is from 437.5 Test per week (62.5 ed)? Is that not quite low? [/quote]

No that’s about right what 400’mg will yield [/quote]
Interesting. Must be very individual to you. I don’t see this consensus generally.

[M]

Blood work is back and all checks out I had these done when I was poorly hence why alt reading is super high, Dave confirmed so all good. I use EVAL for blood work always
Will re do again in 6 weeks anyways like i always do ?
Megs blood work is back and is legit perfect so happy days

I’m slightly confused by this and may be missing something, but this testosterone level is from 437.5 Test per week (62.5 ed)? Is that not quite low?

[M]

Yes. I am trying to get this through the NHS but it is a slow process.

[M]

None , impossible to lower it

Thank you!

[M]

Hey,

It can be pretty instant. Do you have gyno flare up from high estrogen?

Thanks, Ryan. More so water retention and I get very bad digestive issues when my estro goes too high.

[M]

Just from experience , test makes you much stronger = lots more muscle , I would say for me , test : primo would be 1:2mg in terms of muscle I would get from it maybe more 1:2.5 , if I was on 300 test I would need 700 primo ish for the equivalent

Thank you, Jordan. That is really interesting and useful to know.

[M]

Legs yday was solid

Seated ham x 9 x 7 x 9

Leg extension x 14 , x 8 x 7

Hack x 8 , x 17

Leg press x 19 x 12

Glute drive x 11 x 6

Hyper x 12

Abductor x 11

Adductor x 10

Leg raise x 14 x 9 x 7

Calf raise x 20 x 16

Db curl x 6

Cable curl x 16

Db curl x 1 ( hurt my thumb so stopped)

Not totally sure what have done to my thumb, I felt something crunch, looked like it was dislocated but we couldn’t reset it, so I just held it In place but when I let go , it kept going back into this distorted position. I can’t move it at all today still, as in a don’t have any function of it, so it’s just taped up for now. This is why training biceps is stupid lol ?

I lowered my gear , I’m just not into the idea of using more right at this moment In time after these deaths, I was on the 150/700 cycle for just over 2 weeks. I’m going to run 100 test/200 primo – see if that is ok on knees and sex drive, if not will go 125/175. I literally just don’t see the point in taking more atm, my only goal is to feel great and be able to train so so hard – then looking decent takes care of itself. I know I’m way way too heavy still, and that’s despite the last 6 months being way way less gear. It will likely end up to get my weight down I will only need 125 test and that’s it, otherwise I just don’t see myself getting down to 240 . This WILL catch up with us all in our 40/50 if there has been a push for super high muscle mass.

Will see how the 100/200 goes as that’s a pretty piss poor cycle for strength and a gd bit weaker than the 250 test only I ran for 20 odd weeks

Curious as to the very bottom paragraph. How do you personally equate test/primo In terms of strength and muscle gains?

What do you think 300 test only would be the equivalent to in primo? (I know it’s not an exact science but if you were to make a rough personal estimate)

Thank you!

[M]

Glad to hear you’re feeling better. Which lab will you be using during your next phase? Thanks

Whatever Jordan can recommend is fully dosed, honestly bud it makes 0 diff as long as it is dosed correct I don’t care what sticker it is on label. [/quote]
Yeah I know it makes no difference. That’s why I was curious as I know you will use stuff that is bang on dose wise. Would be keen to know when you choose. Thanks.

[M]

Glad to hear you’re feeling better. Which lab will you be using during your next phase? Thanks

[M]

This sounds really sensible, especially given the potential future plans you have outlined previously. How much do you typically find your estro is reduced by adding a certain amount of primo on top? (If that’s possible to quantify)

[M]

I know this is really going to disappoint many but

First escalation – 7 weeks post show 20th November is an addition of 45 mg primo daily so reminder of the set up remains as is.

I will outline below exactly for those who don’t have time to read back through my log.

Dave is over today from eval to run an ecg and full blood work.

62.5 my test e daily

45 mg primo daily

Gh 2 iu am and 2 iu pm

80 telmisartan fasted

T4 100 mg fasted

500 mg metformin with last meal

10 mg melatonin pre bed – 30

Mins after last meal or before

200 mg l carnitine pre workout td am fasted NTD

That’s not disappointing! It’s great you’re taking this approach and will prove you can make progress doing so. Will hopefully influence others and keep people as healthy as possible.

[M]

Decent session today, nothing crazy but running these cycles I just don’t have the same press oomph even versus 250 test 700 primo , it’s very interesting the diff between 150 vs 250 test , in terms of power and aggression . And doing the 150/700 every 8 days vs 250/700 every 7 days is also going to be noticeable . When on the lower end of cycles I can defo feel and see the diff . I imagine if I re added 1-2 iu gh now after taking so so long off it, I would see and feel that diff a lot too

Is the GH something you’re considering or just making an observation? And how is the Dimensions switch treating you?