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It would appear what you used was either fake or you got lucky and HPTA restored by itself following the clearout period.
SHBG can be high for several reasons – insulin resistance, high estrogen, high cortsol etc.
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hs-CRP is very elevated at 6 so there’s some source of inflammation which needs addressing and is putting risk of CV disease.
HDL is low but as an artefact of the elevated testosterone and skewed E2 ratio.
Rest of lipid panel is relatively normal.RBC and liver would appear normal
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Potential insulin resistance or elevated cortisol.
Looks like you were jabbing plain oil if bloods came back no change to baseline bloods or you got very lucky and HPTA recovered perfectly (which can happen)
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Klaas – I would still probably check E2 before adding Tren and nandrolone wo yiu know baseline value.
Tren unfortunately can interact in the ELISA assay and give a false elevated E2 result. Its progestin activity can augment the E2 receptor.
Nandrolone can aromatise but at a very low rate but in theory it should not be detected as estradiol.
Start low when adding tren or nandrolone so you can closely watch if sides develop
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Stano – even if diet hasn’t changed there could be an issue. Androgens can also interact with mineralcorticoid receptors to increase Aldosterone which may be happening. I would work TVA as alot of people with distention tend to have weak underlying TVA
James – I really do not like finasteride at all. The benefits to risk are ust not worth it. I had a thread on hair loss. If you’re genetically susceptible to losing your hair then delaying the inevitable its still going to happen. DHT has a lot of positive effects in the body, one mainly being strength and CNS regulation that removing its formation just for the sake of hair loss is not wise. It is also the primary androgen for sexual function so again I just don’t see the point in the off label use for hair loss.
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Stano – again need a little more context.
Does the water retention ever dissipate? Do you train your transverse abdominus?
Is the distention from a food insensitivity or lack of gut control.
Did it begin with some change you can remember.
Have you tried an elimination diet?
Does breath smell to suspect Small Intestinal Bacterial overgrowth.
Does faeces smell?Rotties – Boswella can be used year round.
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Stano – When you say water retention and bloating what do you mean specifically?
Morning time, evening time, after eating certain foods (protein, fat, veg), heavy sock band etc…..
Not giving me much with what you’ve said
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Neil – I dont really rate Eq tbh. in the grand scheme it is really a poor anabolic.
Keith – Sure these are all average half lifes as they will differ depending on PDE7B polymorphisms (this is the enzyme which cleaves the ester). Simple rule, the longer the ester the longer the half life
Below are the most common (Ive left out some.of the fancy ones like Laurate as no one uses them)
Average half life
Testosterom Base – 90 mins
17a methylated orals – 8-9 hours
Acetate – 1-1.5 days
Propionate – 1.5-2days
Phenylpropionate – 2.5-3 days
Cypionate – 5-7 days
Enanthate – 5-7 days
Decanoate – 7-10 days
Undecyclenate – 10-14 days
Hexahydrobenzylcarbonate – 10-14 daysClear out time in general is 5 half lives so multiply each of the above by 5 to give an average time when fully cleared.
Its difficult to say – My Bodypower talk will be on the site soon discussing Pharmacology of AAS. Ideally daily injections regardless of ester will yield stable plasma levels. Fast acting esters have the potential to clear faster but again also require more frequent injection
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Values are as expected for training.
Lipids are skewed from oral use. Hard to give a timeframe when that will normalise. HDL is normal but LDL synthesis is elevated which could be diet related also
Liver is still recovering from oral use also
Watch for symptoms of high estrogen and obvisouly address as needed.
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And also do not do insulin intramuscularly
You will not have control over its absorption and may prolong its effect
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Way too big
Yellow 31g but I would get correct pin attachment for pen.
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I would not use it long term at all as it will mess up acetylcholine levels in the long run and is what will cause the withdrawal and headache.
50mg is a nice dose to start to yield appreciable increases in focus when combined with Caffine and a choline source like Alpha GPC.
As with everything, a low dose to begin would have been preferred then adjust from there.
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Lipid panel here is not too bad all things considered.
Cardarine has been shown to have positive effects on keeping hepatic lipase low. If you watch my highlight on IG I breakdown any concern surrounding its potential carcinogenicity.
Its a very useful tool also for aiding PPAR expression as well as aerobic capacity.
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Wow – amazing response guys 🙂
Rotties – I would in that instance look at taking them in the late evening then? What about looking to add Boswella as a COX inhibitor daily? Would be beneficial in this instance.
Tyler – More than likely the Ashwagandha. People respond so differently to adaptogens both positively and negatively from a hormonal perspective.
Joany – Just take them in the evening time.
Borja – that is a very difficult question answer as regardless of B&C or Cycle/PCT the HPTA will be shutdown and FSH production effected knocking onto sperm production. Unfortunately that would have to be a decision on your part but either way as I said sperm production will be effected regardless. Neither of the two I can say will be better from a fertility standpoint and maintaining sperm production.
A full PCT post use regardless will always yield positive effects on fertility providing the HPTA responds to output FSH again. Otherwise synthetic forms of FSH (hMG) would need to be considered. If you read through my full log as well as the commments I put in Ryan’s there’s more there for you to consider.Neil – Its most likely due to the progestin acitivity of NPP interacting at the E2 receptor. I would stop the NPP and also assess E2 in bloodwork to make sure it is not elevated.
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Can you give more context please?
Compounds being taken?
Did you train the day before?
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