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Read my log 🙂
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it’s also now a thread on the forum
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What were the exact E2 and TT numbers for the cycles?
So to get it straight – on cycle you get gyno formation which clears up.
When it clears up are you PCTing or staying on TRT cruise dose ?
Also both of them are not required…..Tamoxifen is just as good alone at blocking the ER.
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Gets bloods done and assess full Thyroid panel.
Sounds like there’s an upconversion of T3 within cardiac muscle tissue which can be driven by androgens.
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No all predisposed by genetics and the location of the ER and AR throughout the body and they’re activation.
Need to think of it in simple terms..
If acne at shoulders, then receptors at that body location are feeding into sebum production for that area alone etc…..
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I don’t have any in USA sorry.
Bloodwork above has elevated FSH and LH but that was mostly likely due to Clomid in system.
TT was in good range so HPTA was functioning.
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Its 1g of each Lucas
And I’m very glad to hear that !!
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Its really only effective if you know you have issues with the bacteria P acnes
They feed off the excess sebum and feed into inflammation
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As above 🙂
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What was full bloodwork results for :
TT
FSH
LH???
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It won’t have any effect towards FFA oxidation etc.
However, the insomnia and lack of sleep may effect appetite which obviously will feed into a calorie deficit if you consume more food than needed.
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As discussed privately, HPTA is recovered in this case after quite a long time on cycle.
The real question that was discussed privately again is how HPTA responds once Clomid is removed and has to work totally independent.
Considering gonadotropins were stopped weeks ago, the TT being produced is via pituitary signalling to the Leydig cells.
Bloodwork confirms this.Also…………
Metabolic syndrome, insulin resistance, thyroid insufficiency, mental depression -> all these “side effects” post AAS use are beyond a PCT where the goal is to restore HPTA and pituitary signalling.And FWIW – Testes size is a very arbitrary way of assessing TT – 85% confidence
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Hilly that’s where having TT baseline before starting any cycle should be done.
Then knowing exactly where a dosage puts you with a follow up test after 4-5 half lifes of the compound.
£25 for a test check from youth revisited isn’t going to break bank either and gives you the valuable data.That’s exactly the problem though – no one has educated or even showed the logic of why using bloodwork for monitoring these things should be done.
Say for example if you know your own natural production is 10 nmol before using anything ever, then say for example taking 250 mg will put you at say 45 then that is 4.5 times your natural test production and will be supra physiological for that individual person.
Even my own example –
I went from just under 8 nmol fully recovered post PCT to 200mg Test E which brought my level to 41.1 and the changes that occurred were phenomenal (see my log)
That was 5 times my own natural production.We ran that 200mg that 11 weeks at which we then took it DOWN to 170 for 7 weeks to bring TT down a touch and lower E2 slightly from 281…..
But not once did I stall – everything aligned – diet, training and recovery.Then 5 weeks ago we pushed it up to 225 Test and 100 Mast E (for to help with aromtisation) and bloods were taken on Thursday which I will post my levels on in my log when they come.
No one should be arbitrarily throwing numbers about when it comes to dosages.
There’s no need for guesswork.
We don’t even do that with OTC medicines…..If no effect is seen at 250mg and you know its a supraphysiological dosage compare to your natural TT, then you have to start to question where the missing link is as its certainly not the dosage unless you are severely unlucky and have poor epigeneitc expression of the androgen receptor within muscle tissue.
Then after the first cycle you can look at increasing the dosages to hypothetically say bring TT 8-10 times above baseline and move into higher dosages.
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Update
Check in on Friday – 199 lb
No changes again this week.Extremely busy week as we had our house being decorated for our impeding arrival.
One word…….NESTING…..LOL
Thank god after 6 weeks everything is almost done completely around the house.
Bloods taken on Thursday morning so will wait on results back from Youth Revisited.
Trained Legs then Thursday afternoon following by Deep Tissue work with Brian.
Its funny how I’m still getting phantom sensations in my right scapula after my rib was released from it.
Even posing during check in is strange as I got used to dealing with the hot burning sensation of the nerve being impinged when retracting my scapula to open for a lat spread.Strength is still progressing and managed to load 7.5 plates a side on the squat machine after taking a step back and allowing my QL to catch up and acclimatize.
Back Width then yesterday in the middle of all the DUIY and cleaning to clear my head :L
Then spent the evening scrubbing. tidying and putting everything back in its place after the painter/decorator left.Morgan saw me pose yesterday and had an idea of my competing in April – not mine but hers LOL.
But after talking to JP I’m not pushed and we agreed it would not be progress to to do it.Right now, I’m enjoying training, enjoying being almost as strong as start of 2018 when we were pushing properly.
Stress free (to an extent)
Exciting projects lined up for 2019New products with Supplement Needs and TrainedbyJP Nutrition.
I will say this – I’m hugely excited for the 3 products coming from TBJP Nutrition
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Ian – I can’t advise there. Have a look at my First Cycle Thread for thoughts. Make sure you have done your research fully before committing.
Fabian – https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.3109/10717544.2014.993747
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