[Dylan]

i’ve ran ULU R UL R before and it’s a great split if you wanted the 3x upper frequency and you can still recover with the 2 rest days

[Dylan]

Thank you Meg and Hilly! As I will be looking to end this push not far out of shape from where I would like to start the next one, those methods for assessing when and how long to pull back for will be very useful.

Just out of curiosity, if a push phase was to end in condition such that you needed a good chunk of time (8-12 + wks) to get back into reasonable shape to start another push from, would you just run cruise doses for this duration since your primary goal is now fat loss? If not, how much would you elevate them from baseline relative to peak offseason? and would you be then cruising after fat loss phase is over in the case that they were elevated, or just transition back to offseason dose as you reverse calories and push back up?
thank you!

[Dylan]

Okay thx, any labs you guys recommend in the US ?

i’m not one of the athletes but quest and labcorp are what most major clinics use

[Dylan]

i’ve worked with them, the blood tests they have are accurate but their panel is super limited and not comprehensive for all markers that we usually like to check

[Dylan]

thank you for the response sas! that makes sense but let’s say you needed 8-10 pounds actual fat off to get back in condition for another long push up- would you still clip it off at the beginning? or take some off at the beginning like you said and then go back into maintenence and take the rest off at the beginning of the next push?

[Dylan]

you might be running 200 test E with your 300 test E brother

[Dylan]

do those ones load?

[Dylan]

yeh they wont load for me either – can you post on here

yeh they wont load for me either – can you post on here

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[Dylan]

any thoughts? ^

[Dylan]

not tryna speak for jp but pretty sure the higher reps recently on leg press and adductor were to be cautious of the adductor tear

[Dylan]

After this time, you may need a little tidy up before pushing on, or you may feel good to continue. (It’s difficult to advise without seeing pics of how you’re looking).

Just took this, I apologize in advance for the posing lol. If it were up to me I would def tidy up after holding as I just prefer to be leaner than this tbh, but if you think there is room to keep pushing after the reset then I’ll continue on.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RkTIfpqG4blGx0Z6n1z2pHMK1LoZr3iY/view?usp=share_link

[Dylan]

Great feedback and self assessment here.
In the past 4-5 weeks of this 16 week phase have you increased food or has it been the same as when you weren’t experiencing problems?

I see no issue in pulling back for a week to reset a bit, and then proceed with maintenance for a phase, and then into a get lean phase, and then back into a push up

Sounds like a good plan – I did add the 25g carbs from honey pre and post during week 10 as weight had stalled out in weeks 8-9 and then started to go down, and after that bw started to move upwards and food stayed the same until this point

[Dylan]

Thanks for the help everyone – Ill be pulling back carbs for 2 weeks and then assessing where to go from there like you all have advised

[Dylan]

While strength is still improving I would hold your bodyweight where it is for 2-3 weeks and see if digestion improves, before deciding what to do next. After this time, you may need a little tidy up before pushing on, or you may feel good to continue. (It’s difficult to advise without seeing pics of how you’re looking).

I would also look to supplement with INSURE before meal 2 and 5 on training days, and meals 2,3 and 4 on rest days.

Possibly consider switching your meal 1 to Cream of Rice, Whey ISO and berries for ease of digestion too. This could be a good post workout meal too

Thanks Clare! I will look into that supplement and switching to those easier digesting sources 👍. By hold body weight, this means take cals down a touch to stop gaining correct?

[Dylan]

Just wanted to add – Would this be an appropriate place for a tidy up / minicut phase, and if so, is it necessary to hold this peak weight & strength before moving into one beforehand to prevent muscle loss?