[faby47]

usualy when you get gyno from adding 19-nors (nandrolone/tren) it’s most likely your estrogen is too high already. Prolactin does increase estrogen receptor sensitivity so if your estrogen is just a bit higher (even if you don’t feel it prior to using 19nor) you can get gyno very fast. I usualy just bump my AI dose just a bit and it does the job. Otherwise I also used prami an it worked ok but it’s a weird drug that can make you very sleepy and nauseus (was taking it at night before bed). But just like @wotti said go do bloodwork and see where your estrogen is. if it’s in normal range and you getting gyno with 19nor then you should change it for something else, if your estrogen is elevated a bump in AI dosage or lowering your aromatising compounds may help and balance the things out. It’s just personal preference what road to go, nothing is wrong and nothing is right 🙂

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[faby47]

Too low is very person/situation dependant. If you are assisted you can very well gain while going into deficit. Also the body can start partition nutrients better and insulin sensitivity is improved when in slight deficit. Also you must take into consideration that your previous maintenance may not be your current because if you are a person whos metabolic rate gets adjusted and adapts quickly then you could find yourself into maintenance again very fast at lower food. That happened to me last comp prep when I was down to 2000kcal and I barely dropped any more weight. I lost my apetite prior to comp prep and my hunger was non existent. It returned only when I started refeeding post show and thats how my metabolic rate took off. If you are losing fat and gaining strength it’s not too low, just keep doing what you’re doing because it works apparently.

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[faby47]

That’s good considering you are close to contest shape! it’s just great to see that you are pushing with such low drug usage and really getting conditioned without tren and other “hardeners” that people like to rely on too much. I think that’s just a bonus for once you will use them, just keep what you are doing because you are comming in 100% and I don’t see a way to improve other than you already are doing! JP will go great with you, I hope everything clicks and that you will have an amazing rebound. Also will you be doing “assisted” rebound or going off for rebound?

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[faby47]

I only really start gaining decently after 4 weeks into the cycle. This theory is only supported IF you only rely on drugs for your growth which is a completly false approach. You will and can grow if your food goes up and if your strength is increasing. Also it takes TIME to actualy build some solid muscle tissue that can be seen – it’s not a few weeks process but rather a few months. Studies this studies that, studies only apply if the control groups are 100% like bodybuilders but none of these studies are done on bodybuilders who eat and train different than average folks. SO I don’t know what you are trying to sell on this forum @max_price but you are giving such blanket statements that maybe they worked for you but this is the problem. NOT EVERYBODY IS YOU! And some people have different responses, same goes with that deca only thing you are trying to preach so bad which has been tested by myself and people I know and nobody liked it (with 0 test or anything else in the cycle). I don’t want to argue I just can’t stand people trying to prove something over and over again that it’s revolutionary or some new “gamechanger” just because they have gotten good results.
We do understand that you are happy with your results but I see you trying to get people on your “bandwagon” all the time. People should do what they respond best to, PERIOD. I don’t want to be rude but 3/4 of your posts are Deca only and myostatin.

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[faby47]

I agree with Morning_iron. I’d just like to add that in offseason switching compounds isn’t really something that will make a change. Increasing the doses will but that’s to be avoided if you want to stay healthy or increase later on when you tapped out your growth potential on the doses you are running. It’s more of how much anabolic activity you are getting from the drugs and if you keep gaining weight + strength you will grow some for sure.

I would do the same cycle just a bit higher dosages and maybe throw in an oral for periods of few weeks on/off to get some extra boost for your workouts and recovery. Just watch out for apetite because you’ve said you are struggling. Maybe some milder oral like anavar/tbol could make a nice hit. I think you will gain even on the same dosages in the first few weeks if you really did your cruise 100% and held on to all of your muscle and strength.
If it worked well then, it probably will later 🙂 good luck!

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[faby47]

10/4/2018 Weight: 96.6kg

DAMN! What a day! Even if nothing special happened other than getting my PB on deadlift (single rep) the day was amazing! Felt very strong today and felt I could get my PB today so I went for a single on DLs (right after a warmup). I did 300kg (660 lbs) single deadlift today finaly after having this goal set for this year. Got it recorded so the video is below this paragraph. Form was sloppy but I couldn’t expect it better going for PB thats 3.125x of my bodyweight. I’ll be backing off from deadlifts now and fix my form so I’ll be pushing from legs more than using glutes and lower back.
Otherwise I was a bit hungier today (had no refeeds this week) and I’m really feeling the tren working now. Getting dryer and looking way better than I did. You can also see my muscle definition way better on the video and during the lift when everything “pops”. I’m very happy and I have a feeling of achievment after a long time. I didn’t imagine I will pull my best DL in deficit (honestly was never strong in offseason – idk why). Been noticing lately that my hamms look way better and have grown very decently. They were my weak point as I didn’t target them enough and didn’t give them near enough attention.

Was inspired by Jordan for deadlifts so here it is!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHW4EW78ETU

LEGS 2
– Deadlift: 300kg x1
– Stiff-legged deadlift: 180kg x10, 180kg x6
– Hamstring hyperextension: 2 sets BW
– Standing leg curls: 2 DS (1 drop)
– Sissy squat: BW x18, BW x13
– Calf press: 100kg x22, 120kg x13, 120kg x11 + 1 drop, 120kg x11 + 1 drop

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[faby47]

If you are in good condition at this stage (which you should already be) there is pretty much nothing to change just get as lean as possible and make sure you don’t lose muscle. If you are crazy crazy shredded maybe some halo/sdrol may improve you a bit but if you are not a top level contender (which you should already know by now and probably wouldn’t ask others what to take) there is no need to change anything. I’d just roll it out as it is, because you won’t change that much just switching around compounds. People can argue that you should add masteron and lower test and up the winny etc. but IMO if you look great already just roll it out and you will look great without some last minute changes.

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[faby47]

Many knowledgeable people know and have said that intra workouts are a very good thing if you can afford them (in terms of macros). It still does its job even without insulin so there is nothing wrong with using intras. He’s doing a great job and also your workouts should be your anabolic time (muscle preservation time) not your fatburning time. Fatburning should never be a focus during a weight session.
Also @Emil you are getting really shredded, so keep going and doing what you are doing because it clearly works! Also how are you feeling at this low BF? DO you have any struggles yet with daily activities and work?

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[faby47]

9/4/2018 Weight: 96.3kg

Here I am back home after 4 days being away in the mountains away from “normal” civilisation, with only 2 small shops that had some basic supplies available and working 12h+ per day on the project. So far this was the worst terain work I’ve had, got a terrible type 2 sunburn on my face since saturday, couldn’t eat properly or train at all (been so exhausted from work I couldn’t even think about doing a “home style” workout). Although I did eat “clean” foods as much as I could so I was eating 4-5 times a day (as I didn’t have access to the shops) rice cakes, protein bars, protein shakes and tuna from can. I was working at 2200m+ oh height in the moutains which was only accessed by cable transport and been there for the whole day. Now to stop this rant I’ll just say I came back home weighting less and also I noticed I lost some water and fat.
Today was also my first workout and I made some strength improvements from last PUSH 2 session. Tren is doing it’s thing as I see drastic vascularity increases and way less water retention with visible straitions on shoulders and pecs. I was also crazy full 2 exercises into my session which was a good thing to see after a very long time of looking like shit. I changed my sessions up a bit. Since my back is my strong bodypart in terms of size and shape I’ll rather split PUSH session into Chest/delt session and do arms completly on my PULL session.

PUSH 2
– Incline DB press: 52.5 kg x12, 42.5 kg x12
– Shoulder press (seated, barbell): 85kg x11, 75kg x11
– Dips: BW x15, BW x13
– 1h chest press machine: 80kg x10, 60kg x11
– Lateral raises: 2x DS
– Rear delt flyes: 2 sets

Had a terrible headache and nausea from the sunburns and been feeling lightheaded all day. The burn is so bad I’m having lots of blisters all over my nose and cheeks, but it’s getting better now. Been to work anyways and will continue, no backing off from anything. We get this through.

This is a picture taken when I came home on sunday (8/4/2018).

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[faby47]

4/4/2018 Weight: 97.2 kg
Regular rest day, no drastic changes other than looking better each day with less subq water and getting very vascular. Traveling tomorow so I’ve considered training today but was so beaten up from these last sessions that I took a day off anyways even if I’ll be resting for the next 5 days. I’m trying to be positve at not training and taking it as a “unscheduled” deload rather than few days I can’t train due to my job. Anyways I’ll be doing some bodyweight work each day – pushups, dips and similar stuff just to get some blood flow (sounds silly but I got no better options). I’m going to prepare some “to-go” foods for my trip because I don’t even know if I’ll be going in a hotel or appartment. So rice cakes, greek yogurts, protein poweders, tuna cans, protein bars etc. will come very handy in case I can’t cook/prep my food. I’m taking my injections with me as well as all other supplements.

5/4/2018 Weight: 97.0 kg
So today I’m going away from home and my weight dropped again. Even if it’s still the same as I started this cut I recomped a bit what I like a lot. Lots of guys when they start dieting they lose 5-10 lbs (3-4kg) in the first week. My body never responded that way – I always lose about 1-2 lbs (0.5-1kg) and maybe the first few days we weight goes up a bit. I even get stronger in a slight deficit then when I’m forcing food – that’s probably due to the body being very insulin resistant and not using macros efficiently (bad nutrient partitioning). So first few weeks of dieting for me is actualy growing a bit and then my body shifts into burning fat as a priority (usualy when food must get lower to continue burning). Because I work with other people as well I see how different our bodys are and there is no fixed plan for everybody. Somebody needs more/less of this/that by one/another method of dieting/eating while another person may be completly different and that’s what a lot of coaches forget these days (not all of them ofc) – they only use that 1 method they fancy at that moment. I have guys on constant macros, on carb cycling, on low carb with regular refeeds, on “skipload” regime, higher fat (BB-“keto”/palumbo style), etc.
I’m sharing a lot of my thoughts here for me to be able to come back and see what I’ve done and what was my mindset behind all of this so I can learn and improve.
Also if anyone has anything to comment/critique (constructive) or add to any of my posts feel free because I’m interested in seeing other peoples insights and thoughts.

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[faby47]

I never stop it as I always want to keep my variables as constant as possible. Less changes the better it is. You already said it right that you should be ready 1 week out and should never focus on fat loss in the last week. But I always used it during my last week without problems. That far out being in shape giving your body a break is good. Dr. Dean is 100%.

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[faby47]

Had malay tiger and some things were spot on, some were underdosed or bunk (tbol, anavar). I wouldn’t trust it 100%.

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[faby47]

Stephen already gave decent info and honestly it’s just up to how your body responds. Some people can go higher in fats and have no issues and can really get some decent caloric “bump” with fats, while others may struggle with apetite when fats are higher (like myself) and also start gaining bodyfat at a rapid rate (because fats have a low thermogenic efect opposed to carbs – metabolic rate can go up with carbs while not so much with fats). Also what I’ve found for me is that if I keep fats higher in the beginning of the cut it will be very hard to get down in bodyfat, harder then if I removed fat and left carbs in there (funny fact). Some people just work better on fats/carbs than the opposite. I think for a natural guy 30-40g is a must just like Stephen said for hormonal poduction and other health benefits but for enhanced folks you can go lower but still Omega3 supplementation is wise. You will just have to experiment yourself and see whats fits you.

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[faby47]

having lower carbs (+cardio) on rest days and/or using GDA’s. Metformin in an option too. But honestly if your sensitivity really went down the drain you should probably consider a cut/minicut to gain that back.

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[faby47]

It’s worth it for people who can tolerate it well and don’t get a lot of water retention IMO. If you can eat on it then it could be a great compound for mass gaining or holding strength and apetite decrease in prep can be also a good thing. But overall anadrol/dbol (and other “wet” compounds) are not my weapon of choice.

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