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@Hilly , Thanks for taking time to explain this man. Basic info when thinking about it now, but really changed my perspective on how I should approach bloods both this week as well as in the future.

Indeed, it doesn’t make sense to change things now, to then just get blood results which are actually based on a whole other scenario (cycle).

As said, only missed one tren shot. So no big deal. Bloods will be taken at 8 am in the morning, so will do my test prop shot as usual the night before.

However, since I’m fairly unexperienced with it and it’s not a steroid, i was just a bit confused about the t3. It’s correct I want to know what my levels are on 37.5mcg/ day (at 7 AM & 7 PM)

Ofc, the result will be impacted by the timing of the t3 since it’s so short-acting. But if you say it’s best to take the 12.5mcg in the evening, as I do know with splitting it up, that’s what I’ll do.

I guess that on the morning of the blood test (at 8AM) I shouldn’t take the 25mcg of T3 (which I normally take at 7AM) & just go do the test immediately! Correct?

Thanks again for the help. On a side note: is T3 something you personally run year around (replacement dosage)?

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@Hilly, already took tren enanthate in the past and back then it indeed completely screwed up my estrogen reading. Hence why I thought about dropping it a week before the blood test.

Thanks for indicating there will still be enough tren ace in my system which would then screw the reading. As I thought, it seems like I want too much out of a single blood test. So thanks for pointing out I just have to keep things going as it is and do the blood test and see how things are health-wise etc when on the current cycle. Back on the tren ace as off tomorrow night, so only missed my Friday shot then which shouldn’t be a big deal. Appreciate the perspective.

So for the test prop: I guess I can just pin the night before, as well as take my 0,5mg adex then, followed by the test in the morning?

Then one more question about the T3: As said, I’m taking 25mcg in the morning and 12.5mcg in the pm. 12 hour gap between the two. It’s important to me to get an as accurate idea as possible of what my levels are when on this dosage. How should I go about timing my T3 dosage(s) then? The blood test will be taken at 8 am in the morning.

thanks for the help.

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What is your goal here ? What are you trying to do.

Why Re you manipulating gear to manipulate bloods.

Surely the idea is to see we’re you are on cycle.

Considering we make around 10mg natural a day the chances of 175mg putting you in range is close to 0

Hi, thanks for answering. Well, the thing is, I’m ofc not able to do bloods THAT often and still have to learn a lot about what’s most “optimal” for me, so when I do them, I want the blood test to give me as much useful information as possible. That’s why you hear me talking about dropping the tren ace 2-3 days ago, so I’d be able to see where estrogen is at next Thursday.

However, I certainly get what you mean. And maybe I just want too much at once at this point. Based on the above, I think you’re from the opinion to just stick to the 60mg of test prop/ day till next Thursday? And Keep adex around the same? Def going back to test e asap then, since it makes things a lot easier.

About the tren ace: does in make somewhat sense to you to drop it for a week now, in order to see where estrogen is at and then (possibly) add in the tren again? Big one for me that estrogen result… since I’ve always struggled to get it in range.

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10mg/ day for me. Be a bit patient, but works wonders, barely to no side effects.

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First lesson in pharmacology and life basically

Every one is different

Usually 25mcg puts me bottom of normal t3 range. 50mcg puts me just over normal range.

I have clients that 50 puts them at 9.

Range is 3-6 usually.

If your using for growing season then IMO 25 is sufficient

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Thanks Hilly. Understand things are personal, yet still it surprised 25mcg puts you at the bottom of the range & DOUBLE the amount just over the range.

Anyways… since I’m already taking it, it’s maybe best to continue till doing bloods this month, before my cruise? Then drop it for a few weeks & compare it to natural levels at the end lf the cruise. I know I should probably have done that first; but it is what is is. What do you think?

Also, I’m taking 37.5mcg/ day. Currently I’m taking 25mcg at 7 AM and 12.5mcg in the evening. Is this way of splitting things up ok?

Very confused about how to go about dosing it, whether or not it has to be spaced far apart from meals (I do take it under the tongue).

Thanks for the help.

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Ryan, @Hilly , thanks for answering. I might indeed consider stop taking the T3 & just continue this lean bulk cycle (anabolic wise) till the end of the month.

So as said, I have been taking only 37.5mg for 16 days or so. I know that during this period you don’t produce T3 naturally anymore.

But I’m wondering two things:

– how long it takes (on average) to get back to normal? Would this be within a few days since I’ve only taking it for such short period of time?
Or is there no link between the two & would continuing till the end of september – till dropping into a cruise – basically be the same.

– purely based on your experience/ with clients, does 37.5 of T3 put you a considerable amount above what’s produced naturally? Or should the dosage be more like 50? Again, new to it.

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You shouldn’t be running anything longterm if you are young in my opinion. The only reason i see the need for trt or t3 use all year round is if you have no natural production at all. If you are at that point then it’s a life time of medication to try and balance your hormones.

Ryan, @Hilly, I’ve been using T3 for 16 days now. At a dosage of 37,5/ day (split AM/PM). I never got free t3, t4 etc. tested, however, looking back at old blood tests (both when on cycle and cruising) I noticed my TSH is at the complete bottom of the range.

I’ve a difficult time understanding what this exactly means. When TSH is low, does this directly mean that there is already plenty of T3 in the body? Or vice versa?

As said, I’m taking it now for 16 days and do have to say I’m feeling mentally a bit better, as well as digestion seems to have improved a lot. However, I’m not sure to continue or not. Is there any downside in continuing until I go back to a cruise at the end of the month? What would you recommend?

Note: I’m on TRT for life and currently on 200-250mg tren a and 400mg test.

A lot of questions I know. Thanks in advance.

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That cheat meal, is 100% shit you’re putting into your body. Which you probably already know (and now feel). if this is really the meal you want on a Friday night, I’d just have it in a smaller quantity. You’ll still enjoy it, you’ll still be happy you had it. But man, I’d be sick for a whole day after this, especially when going to sleep after.

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I do, 25mcg pretty much year around

Thanks for sharing man. Can I ask: how were your values before? Was natural T3 low? And where does this put you now? Have been taking it for a week myself now, but not sure to continue or not.

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bump…

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As the guys say, Bunk gear if you ask me. Throw that shit away, start a new vial.

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@hilly , thanks for answering, appreciated. It’s def something I consider to start taking. 25mcg/ day as a replacement dose as you say. No guessing, things always constant (also, on TRT when off-cycle).

However, I don’t really have experience with dosages when it comes to T3. So “as a natural” with a healthy thyroid, things won’t get much better than compared to being on 25mcg of T3? Also, if looking to take advantage of a higher metabolism (both in cut and bulk), does 37,5mg make a noticeable difference then?

Thought it’s interesting to see people use it during a bulk as well. Thinking logically, it makes sense I’d say… appetite probably higher, digestion and nutrient uptake more optimal etc.

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I have ran it past year too.

Interesting, Haider. So you used it during your gaining phase? Don’t see many people on this forum using it that way. Always seems like it’s “only when dieting very hard” or “prepping for a show”.

However, thinking logically, I like to think there are advantages (and ofc disadvantages) to using it during a bulk as well.

Can you tell something more about how you experienced it to be different than without, what dosages you took, timing etc… Would be happy to hear! Thanks