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Thanks guys. Can I just train through the burn feeling? I mean, I won’t to damage etc? Having shoulders today and injected into my side delt a few hours ago.

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ofcourse! my approach on drugs is pretty simple i always used lower doses of gear. after 3 years of anabolics i did a 500 test 500 npp last winter.(in my oppinion this is pretty low for a longer period on anabolics). now im a lil higher

before this i did a competition prep to practice. this october when i have my first competition so last year i did a lil practice.that was a pretty heavy blast in my oppinion. but most of the time a competition prep is higher in drugs.

since i think now 1.5 years im cruising and blasting so no more off time for me. so i wont go off for sure till october. after that i dont know yet. so now in my last bulk blast before cruising en going in competition prep.

kids.. hmmm maybe. but on a TRT dose its still pretty possible to get kids. maybe in a few years i will do a dr dean protocol in PCT and see if i can get everyting back in order. if i dont TRT for life.

i dont know if you have instagram? that would be easier to chat

Hey thanks for the answer man. It’s interesting for me how other young people (20-ish) got into anabolics too, what their story is etc. Trying to learn for sure. Well yeh, as I said, I’m now almost done with my 2nd cycle. First was 300mg test and dbol, 2nd was 450mg test and anadrol. Low dose tren to finish off.

How many times did you PCT if I may ask? and how long are your cruise-periods (on average)? I’ve done PCT after my first cycle, but felt absolutely miserable and never recovered from it. That’s why I want to cruise now. However, I’m not 100% sure where I get myself into, so that’s why I asked you:)

I know that with the blast and cruise I’ll probably never be able to fully recover. However, not being able to have kids would be dramatic for me…
Do you know people who’ve been on TRT for a long period of time and still got kids? Is this rather an exception?

Also, do you think there are other “problems/ difficulties” when it comes being on TRT? Would you have a problem with pinning the rest of your life etc… Or is everything further the same as when 100% “natty”…

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i”m currently 13 weeks deep into my cycle and I’m experiencing exactly the same. However, for me it started when I started taking tren ace, 3 weeks ago. So I’m not linking it to Arimidex me personally, but I do take Arimidex yes. Hope it comes back to normal during my cruise lol.

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Remember, cruise periods are as long as they need to be to ensure that health markers are back in range. Not necessarily 6 weeks set in stone.

You may need 8/ 10/ 12 weeks.

Yes, of course. all health markers are fine, but still going to cruise to give my body a break and hopefully become more receptive to the drugs again after the 6 weeks. Due to college I won’t be able to train as much as I’m doing now too, so no point in using extra anabolics then.

Do you personally have experience with the blast and cruise method? Or do you run cycles and full pct’s? For me personally, this will be my first cruise period. I did a pct once (after my first cycle a year ago), but never fully recovered from it which made me think I’ve always had low T. Can’t prove since I’ve never done blood work before a year ago.

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when week 16 is completed.

Allright man. so immediately start counting. Good to hear since I can back on faster then haha:) Health markers are fine btw, but still going to cruise since I’m feeling my body needs a break and will be more receptive to the drugs afterwards.

As you’ve read, it’s my “cruise period” after my 2nd cycle. I did one cycle a year ago, followed by a pct, but never recovered fully from it, eventhough everything was on point.

I’m 21 years old and started anabolic the same age as you. If you don’t mind: can you tell me something more about your approach to the drugs today? since you’re only 2 years older than me? I mean: how do you go about blasting and cruising, do you ever run a full pct and come off for several months, do you think having kids will still be a possibility etc.

Would be happy to hear such things from someone which was kinda in the same situation as me!

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Hello everyone !

Thank you so much for your answers,

I don’t feel demotivated, I asked this question to face reality, and I didn’t know lots of people who started with my weight and my problems

It’s been 7 years I’m trying hard to reach my goals and It won’t stop now or never, bodybuilding saved my life

I will try to add calories to my diet, even if I take little bit more of fat, I got the ability to cut super fast ! But I feel like I tend to get more fat than muscular

Maybe I will try to use some AAS later, but I need to be coached by someone to do it, I don’t know if I need to PCT etc.

I’m not naive, TRT clearly changed my physique and my strength but I don’t need to burn steps !

Thanks a lot
Have a good day !

Hey man. Just read your whole story and it I can see myself in it. The only difference: I”m now 20 and in my first year of anabolic use. I’m planning to cruise after my cycle. My question is (if you don’t mind answering): what were your test levels before starting the TRT?

The reason I’m asking it is because I’ve felt depressed my whole youth and gaining muscle was almost impossible for me. General energy during the day was low too. Now that changed with anabolics. I’d made me think I just needed TRT the past few years, but unfortunately, I never did a blood test back then… the doctors told me “I would be fine”.

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Hi. Sorry for asking… but could someone explain me the use of HCG during/ after a cycle (cruise)? Planning on cruising for the first time, starting in two weeks or so… cycle was 16 weeks, never used HCG before

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Do you mean one cycle to the next or mid cycle?
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If you mean from one cycle to the next then yes, lots can and have done this. Take your rest/cruise/pct and then start your next cycle at a lower dose unless your a particularly massive bodybuilder then pretty much any dose of aas will be able to see growth, what can cause issues is your perception of how much you are growing as the water retention and mental stimulus of a much higher dose can make you feel like your a lot bigger than you are.
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If you mean mid cycle dropping dose then this is something I’d probably avoid, not saying it’s impossible but again the drop in dose can see a loss in size which can mentally be demotivating

I’ve been 10 weeks on 500mg test. Now, for the last 4 weeks of my cycle I’ve dropped the test to 300mg per week and added 200mg tren ace per week (mini cut). In this case, is the “drop in test” fine then? Since another stronger compound is added?

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I wouldnt do tren for summer. No matter how the dosage is, but thats me. I would take primo instead. Test/Primo/npp in my opinion regarding health, it’s much better. Also the look primo creates phenomenal.

But i wouldnt do the cruise if you are going to end after 16 weeks.
just drop everything except the test 2 weeks before you go off

Hi wotty, why wouldn’t you do tren during summer? Was think about doing the same this summer, hoping to give it me that hard look while still packing on muscle mass. Would be happy to hear your opinion.

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Pituitary is shut down

Thanks Dean. So when this is close to zero, you basically know it’s impossible to have kids while on cycle (since I’ve heard stories of being able to have kids on cycle)?

Also, does this mean that the lower this number is, the harder it will be for you to recover your natural testosterone levels?

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Will you be testing bloods again in 3 weeks ? And do you have any soreness or hardness in the nipple area ?

No, I won’t test blood again at the end of the cycle… I did test everything on the 21st of March though and everything was fine…
And a form of gyno has always been an issue for me, started a few years back in puberty. So it’s not so easy to say if the lump is growing or not, but I don’t think so. Not feeling particularly uncomfortable.

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Running HCG along with your cycle wont be a bad idea .. something like 250mcg twice a week, then do a proper PCT once you come off. I had LH and FSH at 0. something after a long blast and still managed to conceive 4 months later after proper PCT

Sorry for asking Dan but quite new to this: what does it exactly mean when LH and FSH are 0?

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I eat a very low fat diet. Especially on prep. I go to zero direct grams of fat. Just get trace fat that’s in the rest of my meals. I feel much better doing this. Also cholesterol is always now much better whereas it used to be a problem on a higher fat diet

Thanks for your actual input Matt, instead of just talking about Branding Harding :p Yeh, so if I understand it right there is definitely a time to go super low fat. Guess doing it for one month during my mini cut wouldn’t hurt. During a bulk I still try to keep fats pretty low with max of 50g each day.

When you say you keep your fats so low (to almost zero), do you try to keep carbs as high as possible then while dieting?

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I’ve ran accutane in the past, non-steroid related. I highly recommend you the following: don”t go higher, the sides only get worse. especially the dry joint and extremely dry skin/ lips. Accutane is something you need to give time, 3 weeks is not enough. Once it starts to work, you’ll be able to control the acne very good. Give it more time and you’ll even notice your possible scars go away.

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Guys, Someone experience with the clen from Magnus? Currently using it. Taking 40mcg all at once and really feeling a thing.