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Don’t know about your stimulant intake (caffeine etc), but cutting down on those will have a huge impact as well!

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Reason for not using the doc for it? Have seen several tests of the company, with incorrect test results.

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100% go do bloods with the symptom you have.

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So I have to give it a try then.

Problem is, I cant get any cabergoline. Arimidex aromasin etc. I have at home.

Wich dose should I take?

then don’t take the risk and don’t start the cycle if you don’t have everything available what you might possibly need.

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Hi Craig, I personally wouldn’t suggest using insulin that late in the day. I take it we are taking about humalog or some sort of fast acting insulin. It can be in your system for what 4 hours. As hilly details in his voice note there any many underlying factors that can cause blood sugar levels to drop so taking it that close to bed is extremely dangerous. Let’s not fuck about here, this is a serious drug and you can die if you use it incorrectly! If your training around 7pm I would take it with your pre workout meal and get not get to bed until atleast 4 hours after injecting it! If your offseason you should be consuming more than enough carbs to be safe but I wouldn’t risk it if I was you buddy!

Louis, out of curiosity, have you ever used or are you currently using insulin? If yes, what’s your experience with it?

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Fucking up your natural hormone production, for taking 250mg test/ week, doesn’t make sense imo. Also, why would you want to inject an enanthate 4 times a week?!

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I tried it once, and I’ll never go that route again.
It’s a while ago, but I’ll guestimate my dosage was around 500 test e 4-500 deca 4-500 tren.
I was feeling really shit, dead tired all day long. My kids were small back then, and I would instantly fall asleep if I sat or layed down on the floor to play with them.

that cycle is from a whole other level again aha:p can imagine you felt shit.

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Hey,
yes you can feel the benefits of gh in the offseason. I personally tend to only use it during contest prep and the 1st time was last yr. I noticed my condition was much better compared to previous years, like you said the skin felt alot thinner.

Ryan, no experience with it, but I thought GH is something which should be run a for a longer period of time before you can really benefit from it?

How long/ much did you take during your contest prep? You mention the skin felt thinner, but I thought it can make you hold water? What advantages did you experience in general?

thanks for the info in advance!

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I would wait 3 weeks then retest. This should be ample time to reach peak or close to it n evaluate if this vial
Is better.

What lab is it ?

I also agree with your thoughts on the adex etc n leaving as is

Hi Hilly. The lab is “Intex pharma”, so as you know based on our conversation above, my levels were to low on 300mg of it. Hence why my estrogen was too low as well with that adex. Currently using a new vial (also intex pharma). You mentioned you’d bump up test more (because there’s still a chance this vial isn’t the best as well…)

I’ll indeed retest in 1 month time and leave adex at 0,5mg / week to not overcomplicate things. What about the test dosage? “bump” it too 500mg, 600mg? Or stay on this 400mg and hope it’s a better vial. Which is a risk again…

thanks in advance for helping.

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To add to the above. I would up test more personally.

Your reading is not good for this level of test IMO

Hi hilly. Yes, you’re correct. In the past I’ve ran 300mg of test, with the same amount of adex and estrogen came back in range. This wasn’t the case on my blood test one month ago, since test seems to somewhat underdose as you say. Also explains why I wasn’t exactly getting out of the cycle what I expected. It’s possible it was just a bad vial. Started a new vial as of today.

The goal for the upcoming blood test is seeing that my estrogen is in range on this (increased ) dosage of test and adex 0,5mg 3x/ week. I can do a blood test in either two weeks, or in 1 month.

I think it’s easiest to keep the adex the same at it is. But what would you recommend me to do with the timing of the blood test/ test dosage from now on (taking into account it might have been a bad vial).

Adex 3x/ week and 500mg test for the upcoming two weeks (W/F/S) before a blood test, does this sound good? Or better stay on that dosage for longer and do the test in 1 month? (am also taking tamoxifen since I can’t risk my gyno become worse)

thanks for helping man. As you can see, I’m a bit confused.

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Npp will elevate estro for sure , but I wouldn’t worry at all in regards to trying to control that , I run 400mg nandrolone a day with no a.i and have less estro sides than 300 test .

As a side note I personally would rather seen you drop any a.i at all with your test rather than up your test . And then if you feel it was time to make an addition putting in the npp ontop of that when you need it .

I don’t think you will notice any diff in feel adding that dose of npp ontop . You will be stronger though for sure but no other sides to note

Thanks for commenting Jordan. About your first sentence: you really mean 400mg of nadrolone a DAY or did you mean a week? Hm… you might have been right. I’m now 16 days or so on 400mg test, guess it’s best now to just leave it as it is? I felt like a little bump in test would we welcome. My values on 300mg test/ week were:

– total test: 48 nmol/ l range: 8,6 – 29
– free test: 1,88 nmol/ l range: 0,198 – 0,619
– SHBG: 5,8 nmol/ l range: 18,3 – 54,1

How would you rate these values when it comes to gaining mass? (not my first cycle btw)

but again, my goal was to know how much to take (test/ adex) to get my estrogen in the mid-range, and not so low as it is now.

Since taking bloods is fairly expensive; what would you recommend me do now?
Option 1: Just stay on the 400mg of test & adex 3×0.5mg/ week and see where it’s at?
Option 2: Drop adex to 2×0,5mg/ week? (I’m planning to do bloods again in 2 weeks, so I was wondering if it’s too late now to change things up again)

Thanks in advance for the further advice man…

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Wouldn’t worry too much about it. Still seems decent taking the dose into account. My test levels are 48 on 300-350mg of test e/ week.

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100mg usually, one of those things, if your lean and experienced you can use insulin pins, this will reduce scar tissue when compared to say injecting blues into glutes.

Ryan, which injection sites do you use when injecting with insulin pins?

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As Drew says, some lower quality whey proteins will spike their products with individual aminos to reduce costs. This means you aren’t getting pure whey protein which will affect the bioavailability and could cause digestive issues. Always check the ingredient panel and go with trusted brands. The JP Whey is guaranteed quality.

Clare, what’s your opinion on the whey from MyProtein? Have been using it for several years now.

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I would dose higher due to the Oxy.

If I had to pick a dose without blood work

0.5mg Adex ED

12,5mg aromasin 2 days on 1 off

Holy… you sure about 0,5mg Adex daily? That’s 3.5mg/ week?