[Gj94x]

Can’t give you any help with zero information mate

[Gj94x]

I use igf des before , but if you don’t have that , half and half would be superb yes 🙂

Could you just use des pre? The cost of lr3 is quite prohibitive for most whereas des is fairly cheap

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Things will defo grow in a recomp with it

And it’s going live on pro forma tonight? 👀

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100mcg bud

Thanks bro, do you think it’s worth using on weak points in a recomp? Or wait until calories are higher?

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What dose of the des are you using Jordan? Sorry if I’ve missed it but couldn’t see it at a quick glance

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I am very surprised mate . I never care to look at my arms as they hit peak isb size and then haven’t really gotten beyond that , as just hit a genetic limit I imagine. And then this morning I was like , fuck my biceps look very diff !

Definitely going to be adding it in after I’ve recomped a bit, excited to finally have some big ass arms!

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254.3 , heaviest going into pull , weight just steadily creeping up

Pull was great , I can really fucking see my biceps improving faster than they ever have before, there is no way this isn’t the igf des and lr3 pre and post ! Same for my glutes , they are growing fast !!

The results of the igf are exciting, if they’re making thst much difference at your size it sounds like they could be an absolute game changer for ‘normal’ size people

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Jordan, I’ve seen you say you’re going to hammer aid on your next diet, how much difference do you think it makes at 500mcg a day?

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100 test m/w/f
100 tren m/w/f
100 dhb m/w/f
6iu hgh pre bed

.5mg aod9604 am daily
.5mg Reta am daily
.5mg cagri am e4d
1mg Mots-c am daily
40mcg clen am daily
1000mcg SLU am daily

So this is what I’m planning my recomp cycle, I have all the stuff on hand ready to start after I’ve been on holiday.
Anyone used aod9604? Jordan is saying great things about it on insta but I can’t find too many promising reviews while researching. I’m planning to run my cals at 2-300 below maintenance, with the combo of drugs I don’t see much need to go super low.

I’d like to hear people’s thoughts, although I’m pretty set on this set up after seeing a post on Jordan’s story about the guy training him and how he did things because he wanted to, not because someone else thinks he should!

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Pens , you don’t know when they are mixed , what they are mixed with ! The moment Reta is mixed it needs to be fridged . So they will be mixed at source and shipped to whoever you supply them with , that could be weeks , and then they are stored wherever for weeks before it gets to you . Pens are an awful awful idea ! Buy vials , mix yourself , store in the fridge

I’ve used VLS pen, it was fine, but as Jordan says you’ve got no idea about how long it’s been stored out of a fridge, and it’s also expensive

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I’ve ran Tren and DHB together and have done so with clients.

It really does seem to drive an impressive recomp effect but sides can come on fast if using to much.

DHB – 100-150mg

Tren A 50-75mg

No need for any more

Thanks for the reply, I don’t seem to suffer any sides from tren if I keep my test low so I’m hoping I will be the same with dhb. Where were calories in relation to maintenance when you e used it with clients? I was planning to sit at maintenance with a low fat approach

[Gj94x]

For as long as you’re in reasonable condition, pull back for as long as needed then go again

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From my expirience I’m on Reta 0.5mg ed I added cagri 1 mg wk split on 2 shots and kills me after day 7 can’t eat so be careful is a very strong combo (so total I had was 1 mg now I stop Reta and cagri to get my stomach working again )

Did it take a week for the effects of cagri to really show up?

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.5mg more than enough

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So the part where it says , 100mcg igf , 50 left bi 50 right , is a clue haha

The clues are all in there 😂

Yeah what I’m asking is if you split the 50 between each bicep head…