[Greg]

Hi Jordan. What dose are you running the ITPP 250mg at?

What’s your thoughts on this particular peptide?

[Greg]

Hi Clare. How serious are you about running?

What’s you all time PBS 🙂

What peptides have you found most beneficial?

[Greg]

They won’t be as bioavailable, so I would just increase the dosage as Hilly has suggested.

Do you use 600 mcg daily clare?

[Greg]

SLU – 300mcg on wake and another 300mcg pre training

Reta – 1mg per week to start – either in a bolus dose or split MWF based on response and opinion. I find a MWF dose preferable for less digestive upset but you’ll notice more of the hunger reducing effects from a bolus dose.

Mots C – 1mg on wake daily

SS31 – 0.5mg to 1mg daily on wake.

Mots C – mix 2ml (200u) in and he 5iu gives 1mg

SS31 – 10mg divide by 1ml (100iu) gives 1mg per 10iu

I run 1 hour after waking up, so should I just do 300mcg SLU upon wake then? And then another 300mcg for my PM session?

Anyone got any experience with the ItPP?

Very good reviews with endurance performance 🙂

[Greg]

Hey mate, what doses did you settle on?

Im a runner + interested to see how you did with them , noticeable difference?

[Greg]

Thanks Kuba. What would you put my calories at looking at my training plan?

[Greg]

Hilly, ive attached again my bloods.

What Peptides should i consider adding then?

Also see my training plan , where would you start my calories and macros at, as im literally just keep guessing and obviously not getting it right.

1 – AM – 15km Easy Run. + Strides. PM – 1 hour watt bike.

2 – AM – 4x2km (75srest) AM. PM -6x1km (60s rest).

3 – AM – 16km easy run + PM – Upper Weights session + 30 mins watt bike.

4 – AM -Tempo Run ( 10k Volume). PM – Watt Bike Intervals – 30 mins

5 – AM -Easy Run 14km + PM Easy run 6km.

6 – AM – Threshold / Speed Intervals. + PM – Easy Recovery Run 6km.

7 – AM – Long Run + PM – Mobility + Core + Recovery.

[Greg]

I think i said this in your other thread bud a week or so ago – SLU would be the obvious choice for me and having used with clients that are endurance focused they have all noticed big positive effects in the 600-900mg doses and some higher

So the Oral version of that would be a good additon for me?

Is it take pre Run , and does it need to be cycled on and off?

Side effects to look out for?

[Greg]

Tablet wise, what would you recommend for all round running/athletic performance.

Rather not use injectables at this stage, thanks in advance 🙂

[Greg]

any supplements you would add in? My BW seems to be pretty stable around 86kg mark. Obviously performance is my number one goal, Body weight coming down is second.

Possibly holding a lot of water through training volume etc? Thoughts?

Yes the one i recommended in my first post if happy to use peptides.

Injectable l carnatine at 500mg per day would also be a good move.

Impossible for us to say if your holding water. Do you look like your holding water as if so then its likely you are[/quote]

What about the Tablet form of L-Carnitine?

What is the amount of Fibre recommended per day? Seem to be pretty high at around 75g , may need lowering as getting a fair bit of bloat, but still hungry.

[/quote]
Injectable works ime much better.

Do you have any digest issues ? If not then it’s fine.[/quote]

Seem to have the bloated but hungry feeling if that makes sense. Ill add in the tablet form , dont want to be injecting.

Bw dropped to 85.4kg from 86.2 from swapping the brown rice chicken green veg meal, to salad sweet potato and chicken. feel less bloated for sure!

[Greg]

Hi Jordan.

When you was prioritizing fitness when you downsized, what supplements was best for fitness and cardiovascular gains?

Also , Pumpage Pre seems to work great pre running cardio, i stack with prepare pro on hard days :).

How’s your daily diet look right now? Any changes from the last time you posted?

[Greg]

any supplements you would add in? My BW seems to be pretty stable around 86kg mark. Obviously performance is my number one goal, Body weight coming down is second.

Possibly holding a lot of water through training volume etc? Thoughts?

Yes the one i recommended in my first post if happy to use peptides.

Injectable l carnatine at 500mg per day would also be a good move.

Impossible for us to say if your holding water. Do you look like your holding water as if so then its likely you are[/quote]

What about the Tablet form of L-Carnitine?

What is the amount of Fibre recommended per day? Seem to be pretty high at around 75g , may need lowering as getting a fair bit of bloat, but still hungry.

[Greg]

Hows the Diet looking like now mate?

[Greg]

any supplements you would add in? My BW seems to be pretty stable around 86kg mark. Obviously performance is my number one goal, Body weight coming down is second.

Possibly holding a lot of water through training volume etc? Thoughts?

[Greg]

Thanks once again for the replies.

So after a rethink , I’ve come up with something like this.

Ill explain my thought process, then please critique away!!

So , I Wake at 3.15am, Hydrate with 750ml water with Pre run Ritual. Light on stomach , sits well etc.

Train 4.00am running session 1.

Usually done for 5.30am, hydrate, M1 goes in soon as I can , usually 6:00am.

M2 – Nice whole meal , usually 9.15AM.

M3 – Light on the Stomach , ready for PM session. Usually eat 12.15pm.

Train 2.30 pm session 2, Eaas + Creatine before / during.

Post W , driving home 4pm – Something to tide me over + quick carbs , little bit of protein.

M4 – Biggest meal of the day , Refuel + Recovery. Usually Between 4.45pm – 5pm.

I make a Loaf with all the Ingredients, comes out lovely! I Like to go to bed full and satisfied, helps me sleep etc. Idea for the meal is to make sure I’ve Fuel for the next day , and to recover from the days work.

(If i still Feel hungry, ill add some Sourdough toast with PB + bannana , Or 100g Cereal etc). Extra 500 cals approx.

Will also swap Chicken and Sweet Potato for other sources with equal macros ( 5%beef, Rice, Pasta etc, and the Veg for Salad.)

Diet Plan Example Below :

4,000 Calorie Base Line Diet.

Pre Run AM – 3 Rice Cakes , 10g honey , 1 medium banana. 5g Creatine, 1 scoop Eaa’s , 5g glutamine. Cals 244 Fats 1.9 Carbs 55.3 Protein 3.5

*15g of Prepare Pro on hard session days + 15g Pumpage.

Training session 1.

M1 – 140g Cream of Rice , 35g Oats , 60g Whey , 20g Almonds 1 Apple. = Cals 973 Fats 17.2 Carbs 145.9 Protein 59.4

M2 – 400g cooked sweet potato , 125g cooked chicken, 250g veg , 20g Almonds. = Cals 886 Fats 15.7 Carbs 132.0 Protein 60.5

M3 – Pre Session 2 – 125g Cream of Rice + 20g Whey. 1 scoop Eaa’s + 10g Creatine. = Cals 475 Fats 1.5 Carbs 92.1 Protein 22.4

Post Session 2 – 70g Sourdough, 20g Whey + 1 Apple. = Cals 270 Fats 1.9 Carbs 46.0 Protein 20.6

M4 – 3 Medium eggs + 7 Medium Egg whites. 200g Raw Carrot , 100g Cream of Rice, 50g Oats , 250g Frozen Mixed Fruit , 25g Peanut butter , 10g Almonds + 1 Medium Kiwi. = Cals 1187 Fats 38.9 Carbs 145.1 Protein 66.5.

Totals – Cals – 3988 Fats- 76.8g Carbs -604.7g Protein -232.4g

Daily Supplements – Creatine, Glutamine, Eaas , Omegas , k2 + d3 , Magnesium , Cordyceps , Multi , b-vits , Vit C , Iron , Cure Coming, Insure.

Dream sleep + Glycine pre bed.

As for Training, rest days come as and when i feel i need which isnt very often. The Easy Runs are Mainly for Recovery, Flushing the Legs out Etc.

Look Forward to the Replies! Cheers Greg.