[Ian De Kerf]

Awesome push session today 317.4lbs this AM which I have held all week. Took some nice progressions today across the board.

Strength increasing and recovering well from escalation in volume.

Off season started today….

Cycle started today:-

150mg Test E daily150mg EQ daily GH 14iu TD 12iu NTDT4 150mcgTelmisartan 40mgMetformin 500mgL-carnitine 1000mg

Had my off plan meal this evening post pus pre pull tomorrow:-

chicken & Lamb tikka boiled ricesaladpeshwari naanchips

I like to keep it pretty clean with food sources that digest well – just an influx of calories….

Hey Nathan,

Love to reading your log.

I have a question about your GH, how are you splitting them into the day?

Morning pre post and before bed pinning?

Grtz

[Ian De Kerf]

I take in 3000 mg daily, taking PEDs and training depletes magnesium levels, RDA is very low and lower than it should be.

Almost everyone should be taking in more magnesium than they do

Thanks for the reply Kuba, makes much sense!

[Ian De Kerf]

Hey Ian,

Agreed – you certainly don’t have to employ every compound here and it’s more on a needs basis as the phase progresses.

Planning it out has little merit these days given you could benefit and grow on less without having to add or change anything.

So it’s more of a monitor, assess as you go and then decide what to add IF needed etc.

Eg. You could begin on Test+Primo+NPP and continue to grow for the entire growing phase so why change anything?

Hope this helps in terms of thought process.

Triv

Hey Triv,

I was on the same idea, to start with a test primo again and maybe add npp later on.

Thnx for replying

[Ian De Kerf]

This is a terrible cycle IMO.

Obviously we do not know anything about you so its hard to say what doses are relevant.

I see no reason for that dose of EQ at all.

I see no reason why you would run it for just 4 weeks – yes it would potentially add some AI benefit for the remainder but that dose is huge for that benefit alone.

Switching from slow Deca to fast deca also makes no sense to me. Yes there could be a reason of allowing it to leave the system quicker but this makes little sense to me with these doses and time frame.

Bringing tren in while running Deca/NPP is a very toxic/stressful mix and I see zero need for it – will bring about much more negatives than posives.

Winstrol in a gaining phase is IMO a terrible move due to its impact on joints/tendons and bringing 0 that the other drugs are not already doing.

Just running that dose of proviron for that period of time makes 0 sense.

So to me this is not a great cycle at all, I could make an argument for some of it if I was trying to but it would be a poor one and I would not recommend doing this at all.

Thanx for replying, I had the same idea of what you’re saying right now.

I was questioning myself when I saw this.

That’s why I am asking other opinions.

I prefer to not take so much orals as well in a off season cycle, and tren I only used it pre comp.

But my biggest question was why mixing so many long ester compounds? When it’s going to work, you stop with it and start an another?

On the other part my last cycle was on contest prep now, I am still on a cruise and recovering from that.

I add the contest prep cycle in photo.

For the previous off season I was ended on 500mg test e and 400mg primo.

[Ian De Kerf]

Received from who? This cycle is very muddled, almost no thought behind it, just trying to use every anabolic in the book by the end of the 12 weeks

Local coach

[Ian De Kerf]

Anything i do talk about will be on here for defo, i dont see myself doing anything on YT about myself, i will just continue to do my content to help others a bit more so, on there

the issue i have, is in the last couple years, i have been on an extreme pendulum/rollercoaster, trying to work out what i want etc its been a very useful process, but its also been extremely mentally painful at times, and i have had stints of such extreme depression that I’m not able to logically overcome ( learning that depression has fuck all to do with logic, which i find comforting , as previously i saw depression as some kind of puzzle that i could solve if i was smart enough, but sadly that is not the case. ) so im extremely fearful of talking in absolutes anymore because nothing is clear to me anymore

in my therapy sessions i talk about this path i used to see, i dont know if i have ever mentioned it here, but to me, the path was crystal clear, like a runway. It was a hard path to walk down, but it was always extremely clear, so i kept walking down it. in 2019 something happened and i lost the path, and i see myself in the darkness trying to find it, trying everything i think logically possible to light this path back up that i have always seen my whole life since i was very young. Its been trt, then low drugs, then stopping bb – all just trying my best to make the right decisions , all the while being lost. i do know i love bodybuilding, and i do know i love seeing others win/ reach their goals – these things im certain of, and they have been constants with me for a very long time, so im going to lean into this and keep doing what i do and we will see what comes of it.

i appreciate the kind words on here, it does certainly help me

Keep doing what you love and keep doing it with whole you’re heart. That’s real passion.
You are an idol for many people.

[Ian De Kerf]

Hey everyone,

Many thanks for replying.

My current supplement stack is as follow, Multivitamin, D3&K2, good quality omegas 4mg a day (1200mg EPA & 800mg EPA), ZMA, Milk thistle.

I was taking love hearth in the past when i was on cycle and stopped a week after. It seems i better take this all year round. I was opting to add the vital support for the upcoming cycles, i guess to already start with it right away.

[Ian De Kerf]

Can you see them now?

The 12-week program was my contest prep cycle.

[Ian De Kerf]

Can you see them now?

[Ian De Kerf]

Hey Darren,

really nice logs you are making. It is really interesting, keep on going!

I have one question about you’re off season cycle, how long are you going to take primo?

[Ian De Kerf]

All thanks for the advice.
How will look a primo cycle in you’re opinion’s?

[Ian De Kerf]

I am 25 years old and training for 9yrs. I did my first competition in October last year and started with anabolic in my prep, I Went on tren test mast.
I want to gain a good amount of mass of this cycle.
At the moment I am on 300mg test/week

[Ian De Kerf]

Thanks for the advice, gonna keep it in mind. 3/12 I got my blood test, gonna see what that is going to be.
Still have to tell my doctor I’m not natural anymore ?

[Ian De Kerf]

Oké, thanks for the advice. Gonna try it, I got blood test in one week.