[jack leahy]

@hilly thought you will probably know, thanks

[jack leahy]

I would only use HMG. I’ve used this to bring my sperm
Up while on AAS and now while off

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Hello hilly, Ive seen that when using hmg it should be 75iu eod, but how long should this be carried out for. Do you do so long on then off then back on again or? Thanks

[jack leahy]

I have dealt with LA numerous times via email and telegram app. And the team said they never sold fake rohm when questioned; it was bad batch on their enanthate and prop which they purchased off rohm Uk and when they did get bad feedback on it they stopped selling it and told everyone to switch to Hilma or pharma grade.
They said they can’t guarantee the stuff as it’s not pharma grade and they don’t make it but rohm do but rohm sometimes will get a batch like any other Uk lab which could be low purity or nothing but it depends how far quality control goes, will they lab test every batch
Apart from the tests, everything else was good. I’ve used their Hilma and rohm and both been fine and being that mast enanthate.

Agreed. I was on there test e and deca for months, the test I had was supposedly the batch which people claimed was bad. In theory if the test was shit I didn’t notice it because I was still taking a high dose of deca. I knew I was on gear, everyone knows when there on gear. I switched back to hilma test which I used to run in the past and dropped the deca many weeks ago. I’v been on 0.75ml of hilma test e for weeks now and all is good

[jack leahy]

I’m not saying the test isn’t fake but I’m not just on there test. I’ve been blast and cruising for a couple years now and When Iv come completely off gear my body just wants to lose weight, iv gained and still gaining lol, I’m definitely on, just maybe not test. I’m sorry to hear about your sis Cycle last year but sis is known for being very up and down.
I have a few sources though so I will be changing just to save doubt with if I’m getting a good vial one minute and a shit the next

I’m the same when off mate, lose weight like god knows what & I haven’t lost any on this cycle so maybe the stuff is just massively under dosed, something’s definitely not right though. I meant the SIS stuff I had last year was good lol switched back to it now so hopefully things pick up over the next few weeks.
Smart move buddy, when confidence in a source is nocked it’s time to move on. [/quote]
Yeh it’s shit isn’t it lol, and when I’m off my libido is soo bad it’s quite the opposite atm, so this is why I’m so confused. We know our bodies by now don’t we and know when we are on something or off, but yeh could be right may be very under dosed. Ahh miss read mate sorry. That’s good then, I hear such mixed opinions with sis that’s why I’ve always avoided it.

Yeh definitely you start convincing yourself your not on something even when it might actually be legit and then the mind is doing circles lol

[jack leahy]

I’m not saying the test isn’t fake but I’m not just on there test. I’ve been blast and cruising for a couple years now and When Iv come completely off gear my body just wants to lose weight, iv gained and still gaining lol, I’m definitely on, just maybe not test. I’m sorry to hear about your sis Cycle last year but sis is known for being very up and down.

I have a few sources though so I will be changing just to save doubt with if I’m getting a good vial one minute and a shit the next

[jack leahy]

I thought this source was meant to be a very trusted source, especially with rohm. I’ve actually been contacting them on Whatsapp since the website stopped working. It’s back working now but I said about all this, and he replied back with yeh it seems like it’s a bad batch but has a new batch coming soon. And then offered me half price on a vial of hilma test e. I’ll just copy and paste what he said, will be easier.

Hi jack will get London to email you or bare with us. Think it’s a bad batch. We are waiting on new batch to come out. The rest of the products and tests good to go no issues. What we can do is send a vial of Hilma test e half price delivered.

I replied and he also said this

Yes all others is fine. We got great feedback on the cyp just yesterday also. And of course the tren and rips. Npp also but we sold out.

Now like I said earlier in the thread I thought it was strange as I’ve been on that batch for a good 3 vials and I would know if I wasn’t putting test in me as I know what it’s like having pretty much no test in my system. But I forgot to mention I was on there deca also, so maybe it’s the test e that is bad and everything else is fine so then Essentially I was maybe on a nandrolone only cycle which I have heard good things from. But like most will say bloods will determine if it’s real or not

[jack leahy]

So I’m no expert on this n even the experts are not 100% years n exacts.
From my understanding t3 directly controls the metabolism.
However t4 n the conversion of t4 to t3 are important for some mechanisms in the pathway if I remember right.
I don’t use t4 n t3 with a lot of clients 1 just t3 as most have a healthy level of t4 n this can be maintained even when on t3 from what I have seen
However most if not all endocrinologist/ TRT clinics seem to prescribe armour thyroid or similar products that are a mix of t3/t4.
This to me is enough evidence for the use of both

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Thank you mate, that’s helped me understand.

[jack leahy]

@hilly curious on this one too, will adding the t4 help with fat loss even more than just having the t3?

[jack leahy]

This is strange because my last 3 maybe 4 vials have been the same batch from the same source and it’s all been good. Nearly ran out so was about to get some more but I’m going to run a test and see where my levels are at but I feel good. I mean that would be many many weeks with pretty much no test in my system and I know what that feeling feels like and I’m definitely not feeling like that now. Strength still increasing and weight. So is a very odd one

[jack leahy]

I personally don’t and wouldn’t use insulin, however, of you ever wanted to do it i would get a professional coach who has experience using it and knows exactly what their doing. You need to ensure you have the correct insulin and carbohydrates on hand. This is a drug you don’t want to do half heartedly, it must be taken very seriously and you must be prepared for consequences. In theory there should be no risk when done correctly, however, some have died from It’s use, and these where people that knew what they where doing.

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Cheers mate I appreciate the honest advice. I will take all you have said on bored for sure.

[jack leahy]

Yes there is n yes there is.
I would not suggest it for beginners insulin use maybe tho

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Ah right ok so someone who is doing insulin for the first time would be better off doing sub injections to begin with?

[jack leahy]

No. I do it IM. It states it there

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I had a feeling the IM meant that but just thought the most common way was sub. Is there a reason you do IM? Is there a difference in time of it activating?

[jack leahy]

So defo pre with you training late.
I would set up like this n is what I’m doing now
2 hours pre gym – pre workout meal
30 mins pre – EAA/carb drink. I use TrainedByJP EAA n performance fuel – I do 1 scoop EAA n 20g carb
20 mins pre gym I shoot the log 3iu IM
Walking in gym I have 4 jelly babies – 20g carb
Intra same as pre
Then I eat 30-45 mins pwo fish n rice/ lean meat n potato
Pre bed 0 carb.
I think for most 3-5iu is suffient unless you’re pushing other things to

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Thank you so much, that makes everything so much clearer and easy to understand. That’s definitely the setup I will be doing when the time comes soon. I take it you do the injection subcutaneous?
Thank you again, massive help

[jack leahy]

When n why are you taking the insulin

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When? There is no date. It’s just something I’ve started researching lately, find it interesting. And wanted to learn about food timings and bg reading a etc when taking it, something I see a lot. Will i take it? Maybe one day if I feel i would utilise it well, but right now I’m still progressing. No harm in wanting to gain knowledge on here. That’s what this site is for right [/quote]
To add to my last post.
The why n when (which means pre workout or post workout or with meals ) not what date lol is immensely important as my answer n advice will be hugely different.
If using it to help utilise food at meals then I would take at meal time 2-4iu.
If using pwo I would take with a fast acting drink then eat 60 minutes later for the main spike
If pre I would shoot 20 mins pre IM after my pre shake.
So asking to learn is fine but you need to explain what your asking so we can help you learn ????

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Ahhhhh ????????‍♂️????????‍♂️????????‍♂️ so sorry, thought because I asked my pretty Novice question about when to have the meal before you were saying why are you taking insulin insinuating I shouldn’t be taking it yet lol. Sorry miss understood ????

But yeh thanks for still explaining and helping. So I go to the gym around 6:30 7ish in the evening depending traffic. I always had the idea of doing it pre work out to like you said utilise my food more, and keep seeing 5iu at a starting dose so I always thought start maybe like 3iu to see how I react first.

[jack leahy]

When n why are you taking the insulin

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When? There is no date. It’s just something I’ve started researching lately, find it interesting. And wanted to learn about food timings and bg reading a etc when taking it, something I see a lot. Will i take it? Maybe one day if I feel i would utilise it well, but right now I’m still progressing. No harm in wanting to gain knowledge on here. That’s what this site is for right