[Jack Parker]

Hello mate;
I would priviledge Omega, vit D3k2
And not on tbjp website :
SAFFRAN and Vitamins B

Hello mate;
I would priviledge Omega, vit D3k2
And not on tbjp website :
SAFFRAN and Vitamins B

Hi Allison,

Thanks I will look into that and based off everything here – prioritise getting vit d3k2 asap!

[Jack Parker]

Thanks both of you, yes considered it too. Once the sun is out she’ll be in the sun 3-4 hours a day with work. Still worth supplementation?

[Jack Parker]

There’s really no rules to the best split buddy, so you can literally make it around what works best for your life schedule. The objective is to try it, see how you feel and progress with it, and then make any needed tweaks from there

Absolutely, I was just curious on all of your guys’ expertise for those who have tried u/l on a 7 day cycle compared to the 2on1off that has been all the rave recently. I’ve made good progress but it’s a little unsustainable and I think the fatigue in day to day life caught up to me

[Jack Parker]

So would the traditional one with both Saturday and Sunday as rest days work ? Lower back loading Fridays lower session and have 4 sleeps before hitting legs again ?

Based on my work schedule I’d go Tuesday Wednesday, Friday Saturday. So plan would be lower back loading in the lower session Saturday and 4 sleeps until next session.

[Jack Parker]

Hi all thanks for your responses. I figured I could do so but wanted to check. Usually I can prep 3 days ahead with chicken etc around my work and uni schedule so I should be okay to do so with COR. I’ll try the boiling water too and if I figure that out it’s a time saver (I’m crap in the kitchen and don’t want to waste powder)

[Jack Parker]

Hi Meg, I’ve never had issues with leg extensions before, but I recently switched gym at the start of this training block. I could have definitely filmed the sets and reviewed things, or dropped the weight, but even with little weight the set up wasn’t comfortable (like throughout warm ups). I assumed I’d adjust to the machine throughout the block but it didn’t get better.

With this change in set up, I’m much more comfortable, and also dropped the weight to accommodate it.

Do you think that the rec fem gets a good enough stimulus without leg extensions? I’m definitely happy to just do presses, but it seems like leg extensions are a staple because of the hip position.

[Jack Parker]

Hi Jack

I’ve just read this thread and you’ve had some great advice from the team here on how to work things on a budget supps wise. Are you all sorted now how best to move forwards?

Hi Marc. Think everyone did a great job giving me help. And from reading on here and seeing what people/JP posts on IG, I know it will be some trial and error too to find what works for me. I’ll list below my plan and if anything else is missing then you could let me know. As I’ve mentioned, a little restricted in budget but know the importance of some of this stuff.

Pre workout meal
COR + whey

Intra workout
50g dextrose (cluster dextrin if affordable)
20g EAA
5g creatine
5g glutamine

AM/PM (depending on training time)
1g NAC
Vit C
5g Omega
Cure coming

AM
Vit D3/K2 (during winter months)

PM
Magnesium

[Jack Parker]

Thanks all for responses. I have the jp EAA+hydration and have been using 1 scoop, would 20-25g EAA be 2 scoops? definitely something I’d consider

Want to take as much supps as I can as know it’s valuable, just no income for the foreseeable so working on a stretched budget and want to prioritise

[Jack Parker]

High quality omega like omega pharma pro 5g am 5 g pm would be essential year round for me natty or not

Then usuals

Creatine

Whey iso

Performance fuel

Cream of rice

Eaa / MPs max

Dream sleep

Magnesium

Curecomin

Forgot to mention omegas, but yes got those in too. Have been doing 5g AM (again because of budget).

Cream of rice + whey is my pre meal but I see them as food rather than supps so didn’t mention

Thanks for your response

[Jack Parker]

Clare has sorted glutamine for you.

I’d increase your EAA if you can justify it, ideally swapping for MPS Max. I’d also switch out the dextrose for a cluster dextrin or vitargo product, it will be far far kinder on your gut.

Lastly – Take the Vit C well away from training

Thanks Rich, have had no issues with dextrose so far (been using for 9 months as intra) and just very budget friendly at the minute. If that changes I’ll have to see if I can work in a better carb source. Planned on taking Vit C away from training so good to hear I was on the right track

[Jack Parker]

Hello everyone,

Thanks for all the responses, I guess this was a minor thing to worry about overall, just didn’t know how to handle it and only taking a small amount of luggage home with me. Also know that there’s the whole “creatine loading” debate and wasn’t sure to think about the saturation, but clear there’s bigger things to worry about!

While I am “off plan” I come from a sports background, generally healthy family so will be active over the break, and eat relatively clean with my family too. Just not sticking to the usual routine. I plan on keeping protein high and calories in moderation, but just allowing myself to have some more fun meals rather than the chicken and rice all day.

Thanks again I appreciate the help.

Hi bud Not a direct reply to your question as the team have covered this. I noticed you said more fun meals rather than chicken and rice. You don’t just have to eat chicken and rice, get some variety in your meals. Eating towards your goal doesn’t have to be boring or less fun.

Salmon, lean beef mince, prawns, eggs

Cream of rice, potatoes, rice based cereals, fruit

Nut butter, avocado, dark chocolate

Get some variety in your meals![/quote]

Hi Marc,

I’d love to eat like that, but currently studying my masters and working full time (unpaid intern) at a football club. Long work hours, lots of studying, no income. My budget at most is £8 a day, and that’s dipping into my savings, so very restricted in what I can afford, chicken and rice diet is most affordable and convenient. I try to have oats mixed with whey, fruit and a nut butter or chocolate spread as my ‘fun’ meal, or maybe bacon and bagels or some mince burgers once a week, but chicken and rice just easier to cook, store and transport when on the go.

[Jack Parker]

Hello everyone,

Thanks for all the responses, I guess this was a minor thing to worry about overall, just didn’t know how to handle it and only taking a small amount of luggage home with me. Also know that there’s the whole “creatine loading” debate and wasn’t sure to think about the saturation, but clear there’s bigger things to worry about!

While I am “off plan” I come from a sports background, generally healthy family so will be active over the break, and eat relatively clean with my family too. Just not sticking to the usual routine. I plan on keeping protein high and calories in moderation, but just allowing myself to have some more fun meals rather than the chicken and rice all day.

Thanks again I appreciate the help.

[Jack Parker]

What do you think will happen if you stop them for 2 weeks? Just interested as it seems like such a strange thing to be concerned about and I’m of a different generation so trying to understand how the younger people starting out think?

Hi Ryan,

Nothing really. Just looking for perspective as I wasn’t sure whether to squeeze my supps bags into my suitcase.

[Jack Parker]

Hi Kuba,

Just curious on how you do your deloading. Reading your last 6-8weeks in here, it looks like you did a bit of devolume/loading at the end of September and again end of October, so around a 3-4 week gap. Do you think that there is enough time here progressing, would you prefer a longer training period or is 3-4 fine for you? I know you base it off of how you feel and are recovering, and that with high food and pushing body weight you will feel more beat up than a ‘maintenance’ or health phase, but just curious as I know a lot of people preach 6-8 weeks or more before deloading. Cheers

5 weeks all out with 1 week Deload

I work in blocks of 6 weeks, those who preach 6-8 weeks probably don’t train hard enough.

I can go all out for 5 weeks before I then need a re set. Some can do more some need less.

It all depends on your set up, volume, recoverability and training intensity.[/quote]

Awesome thanks, that’s what I’d figured. Love the intensity you and the other athletes on here bring, really inspiring.

[Jack Parker]

Hi Kuba,

Just curious on how you do your deloading. Reading your last 6-8weeks in here, it looks like you did a bit of devolume/loading at the end of September and again end of October, so around a 3-4 week gap. Do you think that there is enough time here progressing, would you prefer a longer training period or is 3-4 fine for you? I know you base it off of how you feel and are recovering, and that with high food and pushing body weight you will feel more beat up than a ‘maintenance’ or health phase, but just curious as I know a lot of people preach 6-8 weeks or more before deloading. Cheers