[Jake Dawson]

Might sound silly but I’ve been running 4iu GH, could it be that my Gh is actually HCG causing an increase in E2

[Jake Dawson]

2 options

First as J says keeping test lower , some primo and then using mast to drive overall load up.

Second if you were wanting to use more test then looking to use some EQ to control E2. It works better than primo in most IME and is also less harsh on lipids from what I see in blood work.

Thanks Hilly,

Out of interest, as 200mg puts me E2 over 400, would reducing my Test to 125mg per week be sensible and using 275mg mast alongside to make up the total load to 400mg as a starting base of cut cycle? Bloods being ran in 3 weeks. Titrate up from there on with mast alone?

I microdose daily so would roughly be 0.07ml Test per day

• This reply was modified 9 months, 2 weeks ago by  Jake Dawson.

[Jake Dawson]

Primo alters lipids the same as a.i , if you control e2 , lipids change

1.5g total , and it being from test , mast , primo , I wouldn’t be worried about lipids at all

So I would go 200 test , 200 primo , 1100 mast

And then after 6-8 weeks run bloods again , and make small adjustments again based on that

Thanks Jordan! I’m booked in for repeat bloods monthly so I’ll monitor closely

[Jake Dawson]

I’ve ran cycles up to 2g in the past, going off how I felt and hoping for the best without bloodwork. Silly I know.

Usual cycles of Test, Mast, Tren or NPP. However the last 18 months I haven’t gone above 500mg Test and kept total load at peak dosages of 1.5g from either primo/mast during massing phases and Mast/Tren during fat loss phases. I don’t drink or do recreational drugs and kept body fat under 15%.

I’ve considered primo but wasn’t unsure of increase total load = more damage to cholesterol/lips or use a mild dose of AI to control E2

[Jake Dawson]

Do you have crazy estro sides ??

No obvious side effects. No visible water retention or sensitive nips. Only thing evident to correlate is low libido and slight ED

[Jake Dawson]

Hi mate, what makes you think the quality is low ? Just way you feel ? These readings are high but we have to remind our self that result will be higher from npp in there too.

How do you feel in general ? Mood low ? Any negative signs ? As it may be a case of auditing stack based of feel buddy

Generally feel great tbh, high libido, aggressive training nature and general good wellbeing. I always run my bloods when moving to a new lab I’ve not used before.

I would have expected to see Oestrogen based side effects at this level of testosterone but I’m assume the primo is helping keep levels in check. No side effects at all so far??This is the highest test result I’ve ever had.

Progress has been good with roughly 1-1.5lb a week weight gain albeit it seems to have stalled this last week

[Jake Dawson]

Hi bud what brand is this? Results ARE MEGA high here – very impressive

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