[Josh]

There’s no rush to compete, take some time and put on some good tissue, i used to take 2 or 3 yrs off a time so i noticed dramatic differences. Also you could save abit to get the gyno cut out, like Jamie said you could be the best in the world but they will mark you down for gyno.

_________________________________________

Instagram:@primitivegymnasium | http://www.trainedbyjpclothing.com – The most anabolic clothing ever! |

http://www.trainedbyjp-nutrition.com  – highest quality supplements on the market.

thanks for the input Ryan. As like all of us the pro card is the dream. I just don’t want to run out of time but I understand I can’t get one at NAbba ????.

I guess my 2nd question If I was to stop… still debating this morning as I do fasted cardio.

how would I rebound out of the harsh cycle I’m on…

For last 2 weeks up to comp it’s been

500 mast

500 tren

50 var

50 winny

20 halo

75 proviron

50 T3 for last 8 weeks

60 clen last 10 weeks tapered up

15mg yohimbine past 4 weeks.

previous to these 2 weeks it was

600 test

300 mast

300 tren

50 var

25 proviron for the past 10 weeks

ideally I want to stay on but healthily I know my liver enzymes are high and HDL cholesterol is half.

I was thinking to make most of rebound something like

300mg test E

200 mast E

250 primo?

any advice from experienced AAS users would be appreciated [/quote]

keep test around 300mg and put npp in at 400mg or primo at 400mg. Take t3 down to 25 then eventually off, remove everything else.

_________________________________________

Instagram:@primitivegymnasium | http://www.trainedbyjpclothing.com – The most anabolic clothing ever! |

http://www.trainedbyjp-nutrition.com  – highest quality supplements on the market.

[/quote]
thanks Ryan. could I keep mast in at ,100-200 and proviron at 25mg with 2iu GH on training days. Im quite estro sensitive so the mast and proviron could potentially combat. thanks

[Josh]

Madness.

After battering your body n liver during prep your going to continue to batter it during rebound. Makes no sense.

I would switch to fast acting esters so when done they clear.

I would do test E , NPP and mast p at 250mg each per week.

Drop all orals

Drop Clen

_________________________________________

Instagram name – Hillydoc.  Www.physique-enhancement.co.uk | http://www.trainedbyjpclothing.com – The most anabolic clothing ever! |

http://www.trainedbyjp-nutrition.com  – highest quality supplements on the market.

hilly could you use primobolan instead of npp for rebound? same dosage around the 250 mark

[Josh]

any drug’s advice would be appreciated @wotti @hilly @louis-moylan

[Josh]

Clare Barks wrote:

Only you can make this decision. Deep down you’ll know what the right answer is for you. My advice would be to not let outside pressures make the decision for you. I understand that you have a goal to reach, but sometimes the smart answer is to be patient instead of holding yourself back by competing when you’re not ready. You won’t run out of time! There are plenty of incredible bodybuilders who are at the top of their game in their later years.

_________________________________________

Instagram @ClareBarksPT | http://www.trainedbyjpclothing.com – The most anabolic clothing ever! |
http://www.trainedbyjp-nutrition.com  – highest quality supplements on the market.

thanks Clare maybe not so much at men’s physique level it’s a young man’s game lol. I’m still managing to carry on day by day getting my cardio done , training and not cheating my diet at 12 days out. I guess it’s the fear of not been competitive that’s worrying me.

————-

If you’re that close, just go for it then. You’ll at least know then where you stand and what needs to be done. Sounds like the ‘What if’ of not competing will play on your mind more.

_________________________________________

Instagram @ClareBarksPT | http://www.trainedbyjpclothing.com – The most anabolic clothing ever! |

http://www.trainedbyjp-nutrition.com  – highest quality supplements on the market.

[/quote]
thanks Clare I’m also unsure what class to enter which is playing on my mind.

[Josh]

Only you can make this decision. Deep down you’ll know what the right answer is for you. My advice would be to not let outside pressures make the decision for you. I understand that you have a goal to reach, but sometimes the smart answer is to be patient instead of holding yourself back by competing when you’re not ready. You won’t run out of time! There are plenty of incredible bodybuilders who are at the top of their game in their later years.

_________________________________________

Instagram @ClareBarksPT | http://www.trainedbyjpclothing.com – The most anabolic clothing ever! |

http://www.trainedbyjp-nutrition.com  – highest quality supplements on the market.

thanks Clare maybe not so much at men’s physique level it’s a young man’s game lol. I’m still managing to carry on day by day getting my cardio done , training and not cheating my diet at 12 days out. I guess it’s the fear of not been competitive that’s worrying me.

[Josh]

@jamie Christian-johal

[Josh]

There’s no rush to compete, take some time and put on some good tissue, i used to take 2 or 3 yrs off a time so i noticed dramatic differences. Also you could save abit to get the gyno cut out, like Jamie said you could be the best in the world but they will mark you down for gyno.

_________________________________________

Instagram:@primitivegymnasium | http://www.trainedbyjpclothing.com – The most anabolic clothing ever! |

http://www.trainedbyjp-nutrition.com  – highest quality supplements on the market.

thanks for the input Ryan. As like all of us the pro card is the dream. I just don’t want to run out of time but I understand I can’t get one at NAbba ????.

I guess my 2nd question If I was to stop… still debating this morning as I do fasted cardio.

how would I rebound out of the harsh cycle I’m on…

For last 2 weeks up to comp it’s been
500 mast
500 tren
50 var
50 winny
20 halo
75 proviron
50 T3 for last 8 weeks
60 clen last 10 weeks tapered up
15mg yohimbine past 4 weeks.

previous to these 2 weeks it was
600 test
300 mast
300 tren
50 var
25 proviron for the past 10 weeks

ideally I want to stay on but healthily I know my liver enzymes are high and HDL cholesterol is half.

I was thinking to make most of rebound something like

300mg test E
200 mast E
250 primo?

any advice from experienced AAS users would be appreciated

[Josh]

Ah Josh it’s clicked who you are, honestly buddy, I know you said last time gyno was from teenage puberty etc but you really need to get that operated on before you will be competitive. Seek some professional advice and get that sorted so you can be your best and not get marked down for it buddy ????

thanks Jamie although it will never go without the op its sort of under control atm. it’s a huge dilemma for me as I’ve spent time learning classic posing and I’m right on the upper limit in weight for NABBA however to get to the level I want to be eg 2bros at 82kg currently physique is more attainable for me maybe another 5/6kg stage weight. to do classic 2bros I’d need another 16kg stage weight at my height

[Josh]

Haha that’s it mate…we all want that elixir to fix everything.

Completely agree. A lot of it comes down to basic stuff…getting those steps in, drinking enough water/electrolyte balance, eating enough of the right kind of foods and micronutrients.

Niacin is something to use periodically I think…but the flush and looking like a lobster isn’t fun.  Annoyingly I don’t think it’s practical to take at night either as it seems to keep me awake whenever I’ve used it.

@Josh Maddison

Sorry for the hiijack of the post mate….

For what it’s worth, my suggestion would be to stick to a cruise period after your show for a bit.  You’re bound to have a skewed blood work profile in a pre-contest phase due to the various compounds you’re running.

I’d recommend some liver support (which you’ve stated you’re now running) and then allowing your test-estrogen ratio to return to a more favourable level when cruising after your show which will hopefully rebalance your lipids better.

Sounds like you’re covering most of it on the supplement side of things and personally I don’t think adding in more there will do a lot for your blood work at this point.

Sometimes the only real fix is to remove the offending compounds or what’s driving the issue…not just throwing more health support supplements at it.

cheers jay. The plan is obviously to remove all orals fat burners and AIs post show. will probably just drop to test E n mast E low dose for 8 weeks with 2ou GH before adding more of each compound plus primo

[Josh]

test e, primo, mast also here in off 2017, pretty decent stack.

Not very toxic, bloods were good ! ????

_________________________________________

Instagram @wottison | http://www.trainedbyjpclothing.com – The most anabolic clothing ever! |

http://www.trainedbyjp-nutrition.com – highest quality supplements on the market.

what dosages wotti

[Josh]

I have been running Test e, Mast p and primo through offseason last year and this year and bloods were bang on. No gyno issues and I can be sensitive to this so defo a positive.

_________________________________________

http://www.trainedbyjpclothing.com – The most anabolic clothing ever! |

http://www.trainedbyjp-nutrition.com  – highest quality supplements on the market.

what dosages did you run that at tim? I seen a post by Joe Jeffery who says this is one of the safest cycles going with a small dose of GH daily too depending on your goal.

[Josh]

So basically my HDL is 0.5. My non HDL is 3.0. My total cholesterol is 3.5 however my ratio is skewed at 6.9 due to HDL. Liver values were at 118 ALT upper range been 40. AST 87 upper range been 41. Everything else seemed okay. Full blood count nothing out of range

[Josh]

@hilly @drdeanstmart @haider-mehdi

[Josh]

@hilly @drdeanstmart @haider-mehdi

[Josh]

@louismoylan @louis-moylan who did you use the bloods pal and which profile did you opt for