[John West]

I personally use a HBCD but demo day is a mix of carb10 and HBCD. I think you should stick with what sits best with you and doesn’t give any bloat

[John West]

john even when batch cooking I weigh it raw first…..trust me when I say my time is not in abundance either
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Can you give a brief explanation on how you go about that please? I would love to be able to do that I just haven’t figured out the most efficient way ????

[John West]

I also do as Hilly does with rice. For chicken breast cooked 100gr is about 31 protein.

I appreciate that mate ????

[John West]

100g cooked basmati rice is on average 25g carbs

100g cooked jasmine rice is 33g carbs on average.

Just stick with these numbers for life and then as you increase of decrease things will work as they should.

I cook all my rice in a rice cooked and weigh it cooked and have done for years. Its just easy and much more manageable when you have to be out and about all of the place.

I do a batch Monday and a batch Thursday.
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Finally someone else who doesn’t have time to cook each meal and weigh it raw lol what do you use as measurements for cooked chicken breast?

[John West]

I would make sure pre bed meal as come carbs in.

I would have an isolate with cyclic dextrin/vitargo or banana mixed in as soon as my ass woke up. Add a touch of sea salt

I would then be using some good quality amino and carb product intra. Add a touch of sea salt
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Do you think that would be a better approach than waking up earlier and having a whole food meal if training at that time?

[John West]

The woman with all the answers lol

[John West]

Are you looking for cooked weight or uncooked weight

[John West]

Hi, I train around 6am too and just have my carbs in the evening then take EEAs and intra carbs during training. I’ve tried a meal pre gym at that time and just didn’t agree with me!

What’s your approach to the carb meal in the evening? Is it a large meal? And do you do a slow digesting with added fats?

[John West]

Would be good to see your current composition too. Sometimes dropping bfat can do wonders for increasing appetite and building muscle, you may also need a deload week, if your fatigued, not sleeping well then these can all impact appetite so there are many factors.

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Here we go Ryan I will add some photos, I am 6’2 220lbs

I also take L-Glutamine at 10g every morning and with my current work schedule I train very early in the morning (5am but wake up at 330am to eat a meal and let it digest before training and then I’m asleep by 830-9pm)

I wake up feeling pretty emptied but by the end of the day I feel full and slightly bloated but not gassy [/quote]

looks like your doing all the right things buddy, maybe look at the foods that are causing you to feel bloated, so a case of trial and error. Like Hilly said remove the Tren and see if that helps. Have you got a list of your staple foods, we may be able to spot potential foods that are causing the bloating.
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Yessir I eat the exact same foods every day

COR
Whey
Jasmine rice
Chicken breast
Beef (once a day)
Olive oil
Coconut oil
Nut butter

I was thinking since I train first thing in the morning and have 90% of my carbs around training, maybe my pre workout meal (first thing upon waking and 60-90 minutes before training) then I have an Intra and post workout meal all carb heavy, it slows down my digestion and my body just can’t catch up. Maybe I should lower the pre workout meal and spread the carbs out to post post meal and see how that does. Or even go to a protein shake and some fats pre workout and keep Intra and post workout and post post with most carbs more like a JP diet set up and see how that would work for me

[John West]

I would definitely be interested in seeing some other people’s opinions on that, I might give it a shot to optimize my sleep schedule as well.

[John West]

I do train at 5am, but I do also wake up at 330am to eat then go back to sleep for an hour then get up and go to the gym, usually asleep by like 9pm though to make it work for my schedule

[John West]

I don’t agree woth force feeding ever.. clearly backed up and won’t get the most out of anything doing so… create the demand or lessen the food
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I appreciate your input mate, so I should definitely feel hunger by the 2.5-3 hour mark between meals?

[John West]

If your looking to add additional calories without becoming to bloated then you have tools like coconut oil, nut butter, oils, certains cheeses. Aslong as you have a calorie surplus then the rest is train, recover, repeat. I use 10g L-glutamine every morning before i eat to aid digestion. You could also do some light cardio 1st thing to get your digestive system moving. I wouldn’t want to force food to the point where your gassy and bloated so there is a fine line. Use foods that digest well and if your appetite is small use high calorie easy to eat foods.
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And I do cardio every day 45 minutes either post workout (cause of my schedule) or if I’m off work I’ll do it fasted it does seem to help

[John West]

Would be good to see your current composition too. Sometimes dropping bfat can do wonders for increasing appetite and building muscle, you may also need a deload week, if your fatigued, not sleeping well then these can all impact appetite so there are many factors.
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Here we go Ryan I will add some photos, I am 6’2 220lbs

I also take L-Glutamine at 10g every morning and with my current work schedule I train very early in the morning (5am but wake up at 330am to eat a meal and let it digest before training and then I’m asleep by 830-9pm)

I wake up feeling pretty emptied but by the end of the day I feel full and slightly bloated but not gassy

[John West]

Drop the Tren. No brainer really. If you cant eat, you wont grow.

Not many will use Tren off season for this exact reason. This and the fact its supposedly harsh on the body, and sends lots of people loopy.

I see where you are coming from, I can get the food down I just don’t have that hungry feeling. Am I digging myself into a digestive hole or is it okay to still put the food down if don’t have that hungry feeling?

Fasted BG is between 4.1-4.3 still