[Jham]

@Hilly so I’ve finally got my tests back and as we thought E2 was high. As we said before il look to drop the NPP and Mast and add 400mg primo. Would you add some aromasin for a few weeks to lower this and prevent HDl levels being affected.

No.

Personally I would just make the switch and retest in 4-5 weeks [/quote]
That was my favourable option ?? thank you

Jham

[Jham]

@Hilly so I’ve finally got my tests back and as we thought E2 was high. As we said before il look to drop the NPP and Mast and add 400mg primo. Would you add some aromasin for a few weeks to lower this and prevent HDl levels being affected.

Jham

[Jham]

I have always had the same issue from npp and can’t take it anymore due to this issue.

Because of e2 or prolactin?

What do you prefer instead now? Don’t say primo ? £££[/quote]

Yeah because of e2 driving prolactin high. Haha I’m afraid so. Primo is the go to. [/quote]
@Hilly @Rizh94 still not got bloods back yet but been thinking about primo abit more.
So I’m thinking drop the npp and mast and just do 300 test, 400 primo and 50mg Proviron and maybe up the test to 400 after a few weeks depending on how I feel. What you guys think to that dosage of primo? Would benefits been seen or should it be run higher?

Jham

[Jham]

It’s funny because…If I use 300mg of npp I get gyno sides…but if I use 900mg of deca durabolin…I get none…yes yes same drug etc etc but I honestly think the faster spike with NPP can cause gyno issues in many people and its very difficult to control…people might say its the same drug bla bla but only saying what I’ve experienced multiple times.

I would swap the npp out from primo or masteron or if you really wanted to could add in an Oral like anavar at 30-50mg daily max

If you bloods come back and they are high in prolactin.

Add in 300mg vitamin b6 p5p split the dosage.

Vitamin d3 4000iu

Vitamin e

Ashwagandha for its hormone balance effects.

I would look to add in some vitex fruit also

I have use the above multiple times to bring prolactin down with using caber also prolactin is known to thrive in a high estro environment so this could be the issue also.

Only bloods will tell

Stranger you can run higher deca without any issues, I ain’t going to try that I’m just going to drop it for good. I’m already running mast alongside the npp so was looking for another compound. Ain’t adding orals due to side effects I tend to get from them, ie appetite and acid reflux.
Should get bloods back next couple of days so can see what we need to do then.
Thanks Riz

Jham

[Jham]

For me in this situation I would just be avoiding NPP like Haider says.

However another option would be to drop the Test down to 150mg – NPP to 150mg and re asses

Yeah I think I’m going to have to drop the NPP if I’m honest. Any other suggestions on what to swap it with apart from primo? [/quote]

What’s the goal bud. Quite relevant to drug selection [/quote]
In a growing phase at the moment.

Jham

[Jham]

For me in this situation I would just be avoiding NPP like Haider says.

However another option would be to drop the Test down to 150mg – NPP to 150mg and re asses

Yeah I think I’m going to have to drop the NPP if I’m honest. Any other suggestions on what to swap it with apart from primo?

Jham

[Jham]

I have always had the same issue from npp and can’t take it anymore due to this issue.

Because of e2 or prolactin?

What do you prefer instead now? Don’t say primo ? £££[/quote]

Yeah because of e2 driving prolactin high. Haha I’m afraid so. Primo is the go to. [/quote]
Might be the way to go then, will see what bloods say this week and reevaluate. Cheers guys

Jham

[Jham]

I have always had the same issue from npp and can’t take it anymore due to this issue.

Because of e2 or prolactin?
What do you prefer instead now? Don’t say primo ? £££

Jham

[Jham]

200mg of npp would not cause changes in prolactin to that point. Prolactin is never the primary cause of gynecomastia

If gynecomastia is happening it is because there is an imbalance between estrogen/testosterone.

Prolactin only worsens the existing picture of gynecomastia

I didn’t think it would be enough to cause issues but I’ve ran the test at 300 for awhile now and the only change I’ve done is add the npp and mast and I couldn’t see them raising E2 levels. Will see what comes back from bloods. Ideally I want to be running 300 of each.

Jham

[Jham]

ive used it and it worked wonders i get horrific acne on my face however i am left with some scarring but id take that over puss filled clusters. Sides wise I found very dry lips and it started to dry my skin out in general but thats kinda how it works as it shrinks the glands that produce sebum. For the first two weeks I found I had sensitivity to light but this passed. I used it for about 4 months and since then i have never been as bad again however id say spots have come back to maybe 20% of what they were.

To be honest in the situation my face was and seeing what a change it made i honestly think its a miracle drug and I can only imagine what relief it gives some of the non bodybuilding community who suffer with extreme acne.

What dose was you doing please

Jham

[Jham]

If that was me I would drop the number of sets from 4 to 2 and focus on going to failure on them two sets, should recover better from that along with everything else you can control.

Jham

[Jham]

If it’s working don’t change imo

Jham

[Jham]

Hey! Cure coming & join in. Definitely do your own research into peptides there’s a video explaining them on here too ?

Thanks kam for some reason it won’t let me tag you.
I’ve looked into box 157 alongside tb5pp just wondered if anyone has had any success stories or have use d other products. Before a put an order in

Jham

[Jham]

@Hilly @jimmytonk1 @Jordan_peters

Jham

[Jham]

Love how happy you are after making this smart but hard decision. Can we have weekly pics to see from the start to your new end goal?

Jham