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I’ve just read “healthy gut healthy you”, quite interresting

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Elimination diet.

Stay in a fasting state for 2-4 days before starting an elimination diet, that’s a great strategy to quickly reduce inflammation. Note that 1 day in usually not enough, go for minimum 2 days. Then introduce food progressively, you can start with EAA mixed with maltodextrine.

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The only gut health book I know is about SIBO: https://sibosurvivor.com/sibo-elimination-toolkit/

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Some single-strains probiotics are also interesting:
– saccharomyces boulardii
– lactobacillus plantarum 299v
– bifidobacterium infantis 35624
– bacillus coagulans (lactospore)

I’m currently using these ones above althogether. VSL#3 is also very good.

Do you have specific symptoms?

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It could be a lot of different things. What are you taking atm? Do you have other symptoms?

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I live in Belgium too. I trust the Valkyrie brand however it’s expansive.

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@Dean Indeed, I would really like to hear you opinion on it

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Have a look at low FODMAP diet, it’s also used for SIBO. I removed all veggies from my diet however I believe that some of them can be ok, it depends. Concerning fruits, it’s also depends and I didn’t ate a banana since a long time.

I used to eat oats however I buy the gluten free version, I’m not sure it change anything.. what I can say it that the gluten free is ok for me.

However I believe that intolerances is very person dependent, if you suspect a SIBO, find a lab that can check it. If you can’t find one, maybe you can start a one-month herbal supplementation to see if it helps.

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It tooks me a LOT of thing to figure out that whey was not good for me as I was using very low carbs whey and unflavored however I used to add sucralose so I still don’t know if it’s related to whey protein or sucralose..

By the way I suspected a lot of deseases before SIBO: helicobacter, candida albican, gluten intolerance, splenomegaly symptoms (I have a bigger spleen), liver desease and some others.. SIBO is not so common and hard to detect.

My symptoms:
– bloating
– quickly full after eating
– diarrhea
– loss of appetite
– migraine
– anxiety, depression
– fatigue, lethargy
– immediate sleep after eating
– physically exhausted after 30min of workout

From what I read, people has very different symptoms and most of gastrointestinal deseases share the same symptoms hence it’s not easy.

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I’ve started the antibiotic treatment just today, while it’s been about one year that I’m trying to find what wrong and 5 months that I was suspecting a gastrointestinal issue. I’m taking Rifaximin, it’s the most potent antibiotic for SIBO but quite expansive.

Herbal supplementation can also be effective to treat SIBO: berberine, oregano, allicin and neem. A medical study also found that these combinations are “at least as effective as rifaximin”: Biotics FC Cidal with Biotics Dysbiocide or Metagenics Candibactin-AR with Metagenics Candibactin-BR.

The only diet adjustment I made is avoiding whey protein however it’s very personal, just avoiding trigger food. I read that elemental diet is the most effective maintenance strategy.

There are qualitive information and straight to the point on medscape (you have to create an account) or if you like to read I advice you to buy the ebook on sibosurvivor.com it’s science based and very detailed.

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Morning_Iron same like you, I saw a GI who tested a lot of things, blood work, urinary test, stool test, endoscopy, colonoscopy, breath test. Nothing.

The breath test is a good way to detect SIBO however it’s not always properly executed, I decided to try again but at another laboratory that use lactulose and analyze hydrogen and methane. It’s finally positive.

Based on your symptoms, it can be a SIBO and indeed probiotics can worsen the situation with SIBO.

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Absolutely!

What are your symptoms? Did you do a breath test with lactulose which analyze hydrogen AND methane to exclude a SIBO? Most IBS (approximately 60%) are caused by SIBO.

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IBS, that’s a very general diagnostic, I advise you to try to find the root cause before trying to reduce the symptoms with supps, you might find a definitive solution.

Stool test, blood work, endoscopy, colonoscopy, breath test.

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Modafinil is very potent and you don’t need to take 100mg, 25mg or 50mg is enough. I take it occasionally for 1 day (or few days) when my lethargy is too strong.

Modafinil is a temporary fix, I would strongly advice to address the root cause of your lethargy and sleepiness, what are the other sides? Gastroinstinal sysmptoms?

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This protocol is great for asymptomatic h pylori infected individuals in order to maintain low bacterial level.

Natural supplementation is not enough to eradicate h pylori however like you said, natural supps can be combined with a antibiotic treatment but that would be a expansive option considering that the bismuth therapy has an eradication rate up to 97% with a 14 days treatment.