[Khalifa]

Hi Darren

Have you tried splitting your dose more frequently? Like 3-5x mini injections and see what happens. Found it beneficial for me and some guys

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hahaha tough so! only issue is he is the biggest guy in the gym LOL! old him to check other gyms to see if he can find while I scour in here for leads

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After a couple days of feeling that cycle start to kick in and the increased gh I decided to alter already , as I will be 290 tmo ( after rest day weight increase ) , and I can just feel my training productivity is going to slide, I am still lean at this weight ( lots of water ) , so instead of pushing it harder I’m going to control e2 a fair bit and go the opposite and drop back off as much as I can to maintain performance as much as possible , I think that’s the route to solidify this last bit rather than make training just pure hell for the sake of additional water , so I will go

1000 test

1400 primo

700 mast p

10iu gh / day split

All my anabolics are alchemia

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Hey Jordan just curious how you split your gear and peptides, injection sites? still able to self inject? I’ve reached a point where i cant inject myself properly.

[Khalifa]

Hello All!

Feedback on 1g T and 300mg EQ, my e2 went from 9 to 20 pg/mol. I will be switching from EQ to Mast. I like the kick of strength mast gives me. currently on my fat loss phase goal is to get close to stage lean then have a 12 weeks reverse and enter 16 weeks of prep. Comp in October. really hyped for this.

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Eq can effect some more the others in terms of estrogen. 2:1 test to eq is usually a good ratio. But you have to give it time to set. Can’t change it after 3 weeks cos you feel crappy

But also, some need a bigger ratio.

If you feel amazing on just high test. Why not just do that ?

Hi Sasan thanks for your reply brother!

I never tried EQ over the 5 years on gear and wanted to experiment and see how I would react to it.

I have no issues to just use test alone none at all honestly. I wanted to feel how I respond to this drug and see how others go about it for my knowledge and their experiences before I make a decision that EQ might not be something I can tolerate. first time ratio was 1:075 and severly crashed me so I am trying the upper range of 3:1 and see if that will make a difference. I asked becasue I read that irregardless of test dose that effect will still be there. Dont want to believe what anything is said online thought id ask people with more experience

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its just about getting the ratio right for yourself and that takes some work.

I would not of gone 600 and 450mg EQ mind as I would of expected that to crash most peoples E2. I would of likely gone 600mg test and 250mg Eq.

As an example personally I can use 800mg test and need just 150mg EQ and that will leave my E2 at the top end of range which is perfect. I do find for most they get a pretty strong AI effect.

Ive always been a fan of EQ so am aware of were roughly people need to be but I do know with recent shortages of other stuff and lots now using EQ many have been in your position lately and tanked there E2.

I would pull the EQ out completely for 2 weeks.

Put Test up to 900mg and bring in some Dbol for 2 weeks to rise E2 up as quickly as possible.

Then bring the EQ back in at 300mg as you say

Hi Hilly

I appreciate the information. i agree i probably wouldve started lower something I have learnt now after experimenting. I normally mix my gear for the week all in one vial however, What I did last week due to being ill i could only inject half of the drugs which kept EQ at 150mg and test at 500mg (from the total 1g T and 300mg EQ) last week and this week also. Today is the first day I feel great again, libido is back, morning wood is back :D, motivation to train is back to its highest. With that being said the biofeedback pointing in a better trend compared to last week, would you still recomend i remove the EQ and bring it back again in 2 weeks or go based of bio feedback of things feeling alive again? Thanks Hilly appreciate your response

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Hey Bro,

I fell you man. It sucks when that happens and I was in a similar situation as where you are. Shit happens no need to beat yourself for it. I love FB training more than any other type of training but you will reach a point where it just doesnt work anymore and that is fine. I am here to tell you its totally okay for it not to work. I would shift to Upper lower and I would try to do as less as humanly possible while making progress. this could be just 3-4 sets of each muscle as a start. pick a coumpound lift start with 1 set and 1 isolation for each muscle,

Eg:

Upper

1 chest compound x 6-10 reps

1 Fly x 10-15

1 Shoulder compound x 6-10 reps

1 side delt x 10-15

1 horizontal row x 6-10

1 vertical row x 6-10

1 arm x 10-15

lower

1 Quad compound x 6-10

1 quad iso x 10-15

i ham compound x 6-10

1 ham iso x 10-15

1 calf x 10-15

take a rest day and repeat the same with different exercises with the same structure. just keep redoing the same, it may look so little but its a start. once things start rolling, add a second set and see how that works. Dont think about volume think about that 1 set and fully sending it and showing up the next time and do the same. it will take a couple of week 1-4 to notice a change. be patient it will dial in with time. At 17, I understand the noise from all social media and how that can influence your thought process and feel like you arent doing enough. But thats all it is, just noise dont entertain it. This is perfect time for you to create something that is unique for you. Hope this helps buddy!

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Hey Man,

I would try to split the dose into daily injects and see how that feels. If using Enanthate, mayble try CyP if issue still persists. My experience with EQ crashed the living crap out of my E2 and felt like crap. Nathaniel’s response is solid I would do exaclty that if daily injections or CYP doesnt make a difference

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Hey Man,

Whatever number you plan to start with, keep in mind there will come a time where more calories will have to be pulled out. if you are starting your cut and already have 150g of carbs rest days, in 3-4 drops that will yield to 0. I would start the highest amounts possible keeping in mind that food will have to keep going lower and lower as the cut progresses. I personally wouldn’t follow what the apple watch says on what your intake should be as it is not accurate. There’s tons of calculators online to establish a starting point i would try to first figure out what your maintenace is at this current point and start there. Gear looks fine, if the amount youre taking is doing the job, keep at it and only increase/reduce based on how you feel and how your blood work looks as the fatloss progresses. Remember you have many tools, don’t deploy all from the get go. Hope this helps!

[Khalifa]

Indeed bro! for the past 5 years all I did was just experiment with different dosages while i do agree the dosages are high, it was the first time actually going above 1g of total gear. Funny enough after 1g of test my libido seemed to just lit up haha. when i was on sub 750 libido was trash over 1g it got better which maid me really question this whole E2:T ratio. Buut more data collected, new things learned and better eperimentations to come. Now the only thing that comes to mind is do I go based on just feel and bloods? I felt really good when dosages where low sub300 and felt like shit anything over that until the 2g total whch i felt amazing. Tried again and pushed up to 2.4 felt awesome. Above 2.5g I again felt like shit. It’s really mind blowing.

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Thanks Hilly!

I have been wanting to also add in NPP in with the mix but after trying it myself, I have always found that it wrecks my prolactin until I read what JP has experimented with lower test and higher nandrolone. I like how you have laid it out so this will definetly be a perfect starting point. A friend of mine recomended front loading P5P 2 weeks prior to adding nandrolone and reported that it worked really well for most of the guys he has coached. I am now confident to try this! thanks once again

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Hi Nathan,

Absolutely love this! I do agree everyone is different but after finally understanding how my body reacts to everything else aside from EQ, the fear in me doesnt want to go through the extensive trial phase I did in the past. Especially with EQ taking longer I guess thats where my confusionw as at. Thanks man!

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Hi Nicolas,

Where is the herniation? I had herniated L4-L5, L5-S1 and mild stenosis also on l5-S1. pain sucks but can be easily managed. i fixed myself back in 2016 after getting injured. I am not sure if you can fix yours but I know you can reduce pain significantly to allow you to get back to training. PS i never used any drugs so you probably dont need to. Get a big band, hang on pull up bar and wrap it around hip and hang upside down like spiderman or if you can afford an inversion table or the gravity boots theyd work too. this helped me with immeadiate relief. Next was working on Psoas/Hip flexors tightness and that pushed the pain down to 30%. Hope that can help buddy!

[Khalifa]

Sounds Great! Thanks Jordan will keep hammering down. Been trying to make sure I get “Proper Fucked” the rinse and repeat

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Just want to say you seem to think well about your training. I hope to be able to experiment / learn from my training like you do, and as I see pros do so on here.

Thank you! I have been training since 2012 starting as a powerlifter for more than 10 years. I am one of those guys that doesnt like much noise in the industry and understood early on that everything works but most are biased on a specific thing and try to pubilicize for financial gain. Throught powerlifting I learnt to stay locked in and it was until i started following JP i gained more confidence in focusing more on quality rather than quantity. Keep trying and trying do not be afraid of doing less than what others are doing.