[Khalifa]

I’m with Haider here. I would take things a little more steady next time around. However, now you’re at this point, I’d continue as you are, but use cardio and steps to increase the deficit before dropping more food.

I totally agree with this! Sometimes I just need reassurance haha! Might be the low cals affecting my thinking capacity but I’m not planning to drop anymore food from this point forward. But I was curious if anyone has pushed T3 and if it’s a good thing to do to push that metabolism higher. I know it may eat up some tissue but since I’ve included tren I guess the anti catabolic agent will help prevent it. I could also be wrong but here to learn[/quote]

I would have no issues with pushing t3 to 50mcg for this 4 weeks run in to maximise fat loss.

If your goal is to simply drop as much body fat in this time then you simply do what is needed to do so.

I would keep the high day in as long as rate of fat loss is good but if it doesn’t seem to be at the time then I would hold off on referring until your strength takes a hit or you feel like you need it [/quote]
Awesome! I was already feeling miserable for not having that high day haha! At 1800 calories leg days are extremely hard and a 500 cal bump of only carbs is like a life saver. I will bump the t3 then 🫡

[Khalifa]

Im with kuba here – i have also done prolonged push both with myself and clients and they can be super effective.

The key is to not get to fat and make sure you monitor blood work and how you feel so you know when to back off and when to keep on pushing.

Im a fan of EQ but I also agree with Kuba if you have ran those other drugs and felt good then there isn’t a real cause to switch to it unless your wanting to control E2 better as I find it works much better than mast/primo – if not then there isn’t much of a need to switch.

Unless you simply want to try it and then go for it as you may end up being a fan – the fact it increases RBC etc for some is a huge benefit were as for others its. Huge negative

Much thanks Peter!

I honestly never tried EQ before. I usually run my E2 as high as I can tolerate it without it being a burden. I’ve ran upto 160pg at one point and the only thing I faced was excess water retention but I was already at the peak of the bulk at that time. I now am not a fan of going above 350mg test as i feel much better even at 250mg. Second reason for trying EQ is it comes at also a higher concentration here equivalent to test so the burden of injecting more is reduced. Honestly I’ve enjoyed masteron as my strength was climbing up weekly which was fun for me. But I’m also open to trying something different and new so was thinking of adding EQ instead of primo and see how the lowered E2 works for me. But I do appreciate your feedback on this as I will be planning a long push so might have some time to experiment other ideas

[Khalifa]

I have just done a full year

Started after prep 32 weeks push up from a stage lean point – 10 week diet into 14 week push up.

Stick to primo & mast you won’t get any benefits over those using eq imo – eq is literally the only drug that makes me feel horrible and I get nothing from it. If your blood work is also good why change 0 reason for it bud.

I like a low low dose of insulin from start, my reason is pretty simple. Adding insulin when your already insulin resistant doesn’t make sense but keeping some in whilst your sensitive only keeps you more sensitive in a way

Thanks Kuba!

I’ve had some issues with BG honestly whenever I’d measure in the morning it would almost be around 5.7-5.9mmol. However when i do my HBA1C it’s around 4 so something was wrong there. Also for your push, when dieting did you lower the androgen load? If yes by what margin? And when restarting the push again did you titrate back to the starting dosage or jump straight into it ?

Thanks![/quote]

Do you hydrate first before you measure it ? Sounds like you was just holding more body fat than needed nothing wrong just a bit over saturated.

I dieted on lower androgen load yes, was probably half of my push load. Then titrated up into offseason [/quote]

I wasnt hydrating prior to testing was usually a wake up, use the bathroom, weigh myself and then test[/quote]

Hydrate first as dehydration will give you false high BG [/quote]
Will definitely do! Thanks Kuba

[Khalifa]

I have just done a full year

Started after prep 32 weeks push up from a stage lean point – 10 week diet into 14 week push up.

Stick to primo & mast you won’t get any benefits over those using eq imo – eq is literally the only drug that makes me feel horrible and I get nothing from it. If your blood work is also good why change 0 reason for it bud.

I like a low low dose of insulin from start, my reason is pretty simple. Adding insulin when your already insulin resistant doesn’t make sense but keeping some in whilst your sensitive only keeps you more sensitive in a way

Thanks Kuba!

I’ve had some issues with BG honestly whenever I’d measure in the morning it would almost be around 5.7-5.9mmol. However when i do my HBA1C it’s around 4 so something was wrong there. Also for your push, when dieting did you lower the androgen load? If yes by what margin? And when restarting the push again did you titrate back to the starting dosage or jump straight into it ?

Thanks![/quote]

Do you hydrate first before you measure it ? Sounds like you was just holding more body fat than needed nothing wrong just a bit over saturated.

I dieted on lower androgen load yes, was probably half of my push load. Then titrated up into offseason [/quote]
I wasnt hydrating prior to testing was usually a wake up, use the bathroom, weigh myself and then test

[Khalifa]

I’m with Haider here. I would take things a little more steady next time around. However, now you’re at this point, I’d continue as you are, but use cardio and steps to increase the deficit before dropping more food.

I totally agree with this! Sometimes I just need reassurance haha! Might be the low cals affecting my thinking capacity but I’m not planning to drop anymore food from this point forward. But I was curious if anyone has pushed T3 and if it’s a good thing to do to push that metabolism higher. I know it may eat up some tissue but since I’ve included tren I guess the anti catabolic agent will help prevent it. I could also be wrong but here to learn

[Khalifa]

I wouldn’t have gone 5k to 2.9k off the bat I’d be a little more gradual than that in future if I was you.

In this phase I’d leave food where it is and add 20’mins daily cardio in fasted so it’s away from training.

It was my first push push phase gained alot of weight. I actually was experimenting and yeah I agree with you the drop was drastic. But I’m learning now and definitely will be doing this next! Thanks brother

[Khalifa]

I have just done a full year

Started after prep 32 weeks push up from a stage lean point – 10 week diet into 14 week push up.

Stick to primo & mast you won’t get any benefits over those using eq imo – eq is literally the only drug that makes me feel horrible and I get nothing from it. If your blood work is also good why change 0 reason for it bud.

I like a low low dose of insulin from start, my reason is pretty simple. Adding insulin when your already insulin resistant doesn’t make sense but keeping some in whilst your sensitive only keeps you more sensitive in a way

Thanks Kuba!

I’ve had some issues with BG honestly whenever I’d measure in the morning it would almost be around 5.7-5.9mmol. However when i do my HBA1C it’s around 4 so something was wrong there. Also for your push, when dieting did you lower the androgen load? If yes by what margin? And when restarting the push again did you titrate back to the starting dosage or jump straight into it ?

Thanks!

[Khalifa]

I also started adding in 1 high carb day where I’d push cals to 3K and push carbs in while keeping fats around 20-25. Not sure if I should keep doing those or just push on the 1800 for the next 4 weeks

[Khalifa]

Over how long did you drop drop 2900 to 1800 and did you just drop right from 5000 to 2900?

how is performance In the gym.

If you want to be as lean as you can in 4 weeks then you just keep pushing mate in reality but you shouldn’t need to push food lower than this ti see drastic changes based in the muscle mass you have and how lean you want to be IMO

Performance is pretty much good on the first two days. I’m more of a HIT training guy so I keep the reps around 5-8 for 2-3 sets. Only the last two weeks Strength has slowly started to drop by 1-2 reps

[Khalifa]

Over how long did you drop drop 2900 to 1800 and did you just drop right from 5000 to 2900?

how is performance In the gym.

If you want to be as lean as you can in 4 weeks then you just keep pushing mate in reality but you shouldn’t need to push food lower than this ti see drastic changes based in the muscle mass you have and how lean you want to be IMO

I ended the bulk, dropped cals to 2900 and then stayed for 2 weeks and each week would be dropping cals. Started the cut 7 weeks ago up until 3 weeks ago when I pushed the cals lower due to the rate of loss so went from 500 deficit to 800 to 1000

[Khalifa]

I would say continue pushing down for the next 4 weeks. If you’re not doing cardio this would move things along nicely by adding that in. Energy is going to come and go when dieting but you’ve plenty of room to keep pushing ☺️

Awesome! Will keep going 🫡

[Khalifa]

You take them as low as needed based on fat loss. You look good here but you still have more room to keep losing before lean lean. How about adding in direct cardio other than just steps?

So what I’ve started doing currently is post training I’d do 45 mins of walking on my walking pad to finish up the steps of the day. Normally I spread the steps across the day but now around 6000 steps in one go.