[Marvin]

So BW x 15 would be sufficient to build serious size as fast as possible w/o getting fat?

It seems to be a bit low – isn’t it?

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[Marvin]

Ah okay, thank you Louis. I will take a look 🙂 !

Really appreciate your help man 🙂

TankDawg

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[Marvin]

Ah you mean via trial and error ?
Okay, so I will try it that way.

I thought there would be some kind of formula, which (approximately) would give me an idea of what calories I should start with.

I just started the bulk this week – so I’m pretty helpless with the calories I should eat haha..

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[Marvin]

Okay, thanks man.

May you be able to tell me, how do I calculate my lean bulking calorie needs ? That would be awesome hehe…

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[Marvin]

I looked through his whole articles in the app in the meantime. I found it by myself just 2 minutes ago – writing it in my logbook right now. Thanks anyway buddy.

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[Marvin]

Okay, thanks Buddy.

By any chance, can you give me a way to relatively exact calculate my maintenance ?

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[Marvin]

Sure buddy – thanks in advance.

I’m 25 years old – actually I’m weighing around 191.8 lbs with around 8% bf.

I usually tolerate Tren really well – never had any real issues except being a bit short fused when I’m stressed.

To be honest I never used two 19 nors at the same time.

My previous cycle was Test Tren Mast Eq for a cut.

150 mg Test E
500-600 mg Tren E
400 mg Mast
500 mg Eq

Now I just want to lean bulk / stay relative lean and build quality ASAP.
Currently trying out Doggcrapp – but will definitely look into Jordan’s program / routine. Just started in this forum today and from what I see, he is really the man!

Should be pretty effective to train like him. But I can’t find a real introduction / basic to his routine here. Still orientating.

Btw. Sorry for my bad English – I’m no native speaker.

TankDawg

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[Marvin]

Sorry for hijacking your thread – but I thought before I open another with almost the same question, I’d better ask here.

Maybe @Christoph / somebody else – what do you think about my “lean / clean bulk” compounds / dosages ?

Test E 500 mg (maybe 750 mg?)
Tren E 300 mg
Deca 300 mg

TankDawg

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