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Legend, thanks for confirming
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Cycle is hefty n will
Give good results.
Will it helps you achieve your goal ? Impossible to tell.
Depends on how hard you work , how gd generics are , how gd nutrition n training is._________________________________________
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http://www.trainedbyjp-nutrition.com – highest quality supplements on the market.I know this is a broad question but in your opinion have you had more success with recomping or your typical cut followed by a bulk or vice versa?
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Hey,
I would personally drop the EQ if adding in tren. A big cycle like that could bring about more sides so that will ultimately dictate how long you can run a course for. Less for longer is better in my opinion. You will need regular blood work to see when to pull back._________________________________________
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http://www.trainedbyjp-nutrition.com – highest quality supplements on the market.That is a good point. My bloodwork typically holds strong for longer periods although my red blood cell count does tend to sit on the high side, so I may actually drop the EQ. Initially I will probably run for 12 weeks and get bloodwork mid cycle. At the 12 week mark providing bloods are reasonable I was thinking of cruising on test 250-375mg with 200mg mast.
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Sorry for the delayed reply everyone. Thank you all for you feedback, it’s much appreciated.
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I similar to you had elevated liver values, alt got upto 146
One month running supplement needs liver stack and levels were at 39 both tests done at same time after same sessions.
Lowest i had ever seen them before this was 51
That’s great feedback, I will additionally get ultrasounds as my doctor as requested in addition to the further blood tests. But I will 100% be placing a order for this as well, sounds like a priceless investment.
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So you havnt mentioned what health supps you have been taking?
if you have been taking none then I would look into
curcumin – TrainedbyJP do a fantastic pure quality one
NAC or tudca or both – supplement needs do a great liber support
Heart health product like the trainedbyjp one.
if your not already taking these then you are not looking after your health and spending to much time thinking about AAS and I would get onto these supplements ASAP.
you will hopefully find these lower your liver values ASAP and stop them becoming elevated during future cycles.
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Apologies I did leave off the health supps.
Current I take 2 fish oils with every Meal (except pre and post workout)
200mg ALA capsule with 5/6 meals
Turmeric 1000mg & 10mg bioperine AM & PM
60,000mg grape seed extract AM
50mg Zinc and 160mg magnesium PM
2000IU vitamin D AM & PM
30mg chlorophyll AM and PM mixed into a drink with half a squeezed lemon and 30ml apple cider vinegar.
I think that’s just about everything, this is just going from memory of my morning routine.
Was actually looking at placing a order on the supplement needs website as I’m currently based in Australia. Admittedly when it comes to health supps I’ve generally just taken a shotgun approach and utilised numerous supps at once, some of which add probably no value, these are generally my staples and will stay consistent. I guess this is another reason for posting my bloods to get some additional feedback on I guess more tailored supps to myself.
I also try and take a fairly conscious approach in relation to My cholesterol and keeping a balanced diet on nutrition choices that lower or help keep it in range.
Based on those supps would you stick with the same recommendations? Would glutathione be needed as I’ve also been considering this?
In addition to the above I’ve also purchased Krill oil after watching one of JPs videos but have only just started using it a few days ago.
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Elevations in AST, ALT and LD are normal in the days following strenuous exercise (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5548155/ and https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2291230/). Did you train in the days prior to the blood draw?
The high-normal ALP on the other hand cannot be explained by strenuous exercise. I would speculate that the DNP is at fault for that. DNP induced oxidative stress can lead to elevated ALP, and also LD (https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/79d1/011bed8806b89e0c73d4c35ae3682082ee91.pdf).
Your doctor should look up ‘hypoferritinemia without anemia’ (also referred to as ‘iron deficiency without anemia’). It’s a thing. Do you by any chance do blood donations or phlebotomies? If yes, this could be the underlying cause. If not, good. I would highly recommend against it given your existing iron deficiency. To reduce the (too high, despite the gracious reference range) HCT, you may need to go on a cruise for some time.
If you don’t donate blood, then I would follow up with a gastroenterologist to see if there are any digestive issues that impede iron absorption.
The day before the blood draw I didn’t train however the 6 days prior to that I did.
I suspected the recent use of DNP could have skewed the results, any indication on how long this could take to normalise? Or is this to broad of a question?
I actually don’t donate blood at all, yes I was thinking it was probably about time to reduce the dose considering the lengthy cycle + rebound. So bizarre as I have always felt my digestion was awesome (which obviously might not be the case), Dr is sending me to re do that test and a few additional tests which I’ll post when I have the results.
Really appreciate your feedback and time to respond, will certainly take it on board.
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Just to add to the above I also used clen at 40mcg daily for the last 6 weeks of prep. During prep I also used 100mg test prop, 100mg mast prop and 150mg tren a from week 16 ceasing at 4 weeks out all injections.
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Do you have a coach or others around that will give you honest opinions?
There will most likely come a time after comp when you look back at photos and appreciate how lean you were at certain phases of prep, your mind/eyes will play vicious tricks on you which is why having others around who will give you honest feedback will add so much value. -
I very much like the idea of tapering up these days. I used to go in to a blast with the mentality that, in order to grow I’d have to use more than before. Now I start fairly low and taper up as things start to stall and I’ve made huge progress on much less. So my cruise was 250mg Test E weekly, from there I went to 500 Test and 400 NPP, then after a couple of months added 900 Primo, then a couple of months on from that I’m at 765 Test, 600 NPP and 900 Primo, and still progressing very well, being the biggest and strongest I’ve ever been, on less drugs.
If I had started this off season the old way I’d have gone in at 1,000mg Test, 800 NPP and probably 450 Tren on top of the Primo and I’d definitely have stalled by now.
I still have room to increase a little but I doubt I’ll even make it to those top dosages I mentioned and probably won’t even use the Tren this off season. I know those doses I stated are higher than you’ve suggested for yourself but the idea still applies, perhaps try starting with a little and getting the most of it and then creeping doses up. ????
How long would your cycle be in total? Would there be breaks in those periods or because you have kept it low and tapered up it enables you to run longer?
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I love mast in offseason. not more then 350/w compared with npp or primo.
Gives you a nice look, more freetest, wellbeing, better CNS recovery
I want to train more and often on masteron ????
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How much would you generally run your primo or NPP if stacking with masteron?
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@jordanpeters maybe you could give your thoughts on the above (which I assume you wouldn’t entertain the idea) but is there any merit behind it?
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I’m currently in week 6 of my post comp rebound using 375mg Test e, 300mg Masteron E, 450mg Primo E. Typically I would favour drugs that are known for adding mass when doing a rebound and would be up 10-15kgs within the first 4 weeks, but also looking like a watery mess and feeling like shit.
I’ve rebounded with the doses and drugs I’ve mentioned above this time, still up 7kgs from what I competed at on stage but I feel a tonne better then what I have during previous plus my digestion is also so much better then what it typically would. It definitely doesn’t add as much mass or strength as other drugs but it works well with me and my body. Will continue my rebound for 2 weeks and then will drop everything except for the test. Once bloods come back clean will commence the same cycle for a recomp maybe even switch the primo for NPP -
My experiences are very similar to Nicks, the 4 weeks post competition for me seem to always be the worst as I will experience a water rebound and while my body is trying to find homeostasis again that’s when it also seems to flare up which usually levels out around week 4 when water starts coming off. Keeping cardio included in my routine more frequently seems to also help. I would Interested to know if a top end pro experiences sleep apnea at all or potentially when it flares up for them, hopefully @jhollingshead89gmail-com could chime in considering his size and condition plus is up there with the best in the business plus he also is a big advocate for cardio in the off season.
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Phil Viz recently uploaded a demonstration video onto Instagram which also included hollingshead, explained in very simple terms and his page generally contains awesome content maybe check that out as well