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Personally I don’t think those calories are that high. I’m 2 weeks out from comp reading 5.7% on a dexa scan. Currently doing a 3 day calorie rotation of 3500,4000,4500.
Work a office job
Weight lifting 6 days a week
40 mins fasted cardio in the AM, 15,000 steps total per day (including cardio).
Current weight 102KG. I think I will need to go considerably higher when I transition to a bulk. I had a good off season prior to this so depend on what your lead up was like into this diet your body could be firing on all cylinders. -
personally I’ve done 2 a day and didn’t yield the results that more recovery brings.. is advise against from experience
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Your looking like a absolute beast at the moment so whatever your doing is working!!
Did you find your 2nd sessions were previously more I guess for mental stimulus opposed to physical? If so did you replace the 2nd workouts of the day with any activity to keep the mind occupied?
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Hi mate
Without any disrespect intended, I doubt very much you’d “feel like” training again if you were maximising the sessions you had.
Of course there are ways to balance it all out, the whole game is finding a trade off between stimulus and recovery.
Obviously I don’t know you in any way, but I would wager that part of this is over thinking things as is often the case so close to a show. All thoughts jump to offseason and people can come up with some very elaborate set ups.
Reducing total weekly sessions and focusing on the quality of those that you have will be a positive moveHi mate
Without any disrespect intended, I doubt very much you’d “feel like” training again if you were maximising the sessions you had.
Of course there are ways to balance it all out, the whole game is finding a trade off between stimulus and recovery.
Obviously I don’t know you in any way, but I would wager that part of this is over thinking things as is often the case so close to a show. All thoughts jump to offseason and people can come up with some very elaborate set ups.
Reducing total weekly sessions and focusing on the quality of those that you have will be a positive moveTraining twice a day is just something that’s been embedded in me from a young age. I’ve always played competitive sports where it was more or less required and for 6 years I was able to train 6 days a week twice a day as a professional fighter however the sessions weren’t obviously all weight lifting and admittedly I’ve accumulated quite a few injuries in that time as well.
I definitely don’t want to have in fixed days apart of my program that’s twice a day set up but my days actually aren’t that physically demanding as I work in a office job and I just find weight lifting to be a good outlet as I guess I go a little stir crazy working in a office all day.
I think @craig has actually hit the nail on the head as it’s more towards the addiction of being at the gym with I guess my real concern being more based around would I be hindering progress with the 2nd session as opposed to making progress which I’m sure sounds odd but I just enjoy working out.
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insulin is a separate topic all together
are you talking about dose of protein? or dose of insulin in the studies?
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Well both I guess.
The initial study started as to just see if insulin increased MPS but due to findings in each study the subsequent studies they adjusted things like dose, amino infusion, where the insulin was administered etc.
I think I read in total about 9 studies in the one article before they concluded it but still didn’t come too a definitive answer due to the variables that kept coming into play.
But I guess my question wasn’t really so much around the dose or amount of protein but more around if this was also apart of the reason Jordan favours insulin and also having increased nutrients around the workout perimeter due to being potentially able to increase the rate of MPS even further for that period of time if that makes sense?
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periods of activity are different to periods of rest
the whole workout perimeter in this case is dedicated to muscle mass, performance and recovery
resistance exercises elevates MPSfeeding elevates MPS
so it makes sense to ingest protein at this time for the max benefit of anabolic signalling because we want to be in a positive protein balance for hypertrophy
does that make sense? I can try to explain more so if it doesn’t
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Does Jordan’s approach also have to do with the use of insulin?
I have been doing some research in regards to studies to show if insulin usage increases MPS and obviously there were various studies under various conditions but from my understanding it seems insulin does increase MPS for a certain period of time providing there is enough amino acids in the blood and basically the blood being pumped to the muscles which would be achieved through working out.
This was obviously my take away from what I had read however I’m not as smart as the people completing the studies.
They did go on to say the rate of MPS seemed to be dose dependent with a dose that was to low virtually having no impact, a dose that was too high not being optimal due to how quick aminos were being dumped with the sweet spot being somewhere in the middle which again seemed to make sense to me.
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My protein
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How did you feel prior to the surgery?
I have a inguinal hernia myself, currently 4 weeks out from Comp. I’ve had their hernia for years but recently has gotten bigger where previous it sat right above my groin now it sort of dips into the scrotum. Still no pain or discomfort but a bit worrying. How long did it take before your were back in the gym? And from what I’ve gathered you have had complications post surgery?
Initially just like I’d been hit by a bus from the anaesthetic. Sore and tight but not too bad. Then for the next 5 days I was in agony. Everything was hard – even the simplest of things. Putting socks on etc. After that until now it’s still uncomfortable but the pain eases daily but I’m no where near recovered. It’s still painful to touch down there. And the swelling is still there. I’m light training now so around 2.5 weeks before I went to the gym but this is now me training completely different to usual with a lot of things I am nowhere near ready to do- legs, heavy compounds etc. I had complications from the anaesthetic not the surgery bud.
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[/quote]Wow, sounds like you have been in for a rough ride. Hope the recovery is smooth sailing from here on out for you. I can only imagine how frustrating it is for you.
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It was actually a CrossFit vegan activist who initially created the rumour of eggs being bad for your cholesterol and being linked to heart disease in a effort to deter bodybuilders from making gains.
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How did you feel prior to the surgery?
I have a inguinal hernia myself, currently 4 weeks out from Comp. I’ve had their hernia for years but recently has gotten bigger where previous it sat right above my groin now it sort of dips into the scrotum. Still no pain or discomfort but a bit worrying. How long did it take before your were back in the gym? And from what I’ve gathered you have had complications post surgery? -
I think it also comes down to energy requirements on rest days being lower. In addition to this having days where you aren’t taking in as many carbs should give the pancreas a break and help with insulin sensitivity which is my understanding.
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I’m currently recovering from inguinal hernia surgery. I’ve spoke about it a lot on my log – I’m currently using tb500 and bpc 157 – 10mg a week of tb500 for the first 4 weeks, dropping down to 5mg for a further 4. 2iu bpc am and 2iu pm. Also I’m using 2iu gh am and 2 pm. I am now 12 days post surgery walking normally and thinking about light training next week.
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That doesn’t sound to bad at all.
How’s the pain and discomfort now?
I know a week off training would probably do my body some good, not sure how I would feel about missing 2 weeks but I guess it’s all for the greater good.
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Yes HGH and TB500 will aid in speeding healing process
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“When you feel like giving up, remember why you started in the first place”
Awesome!!!!
I’m guessing inject them both as close to the site as possible?
What would be the ideal dosing?
Thanks for taking the time out to provide your expertise.
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@jordanpeters any news on a distributor in Australia? I’m sure you will have no shortage of customers here!!!!
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Everything you have said is perfect mate , v nice to see a well
Thought out plan.
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Thanks for taking the time to review.
Much appreciated.
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