[Mitchell]

Your avin a bubble son! ????

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[Mitchell]

Same as Timo for me. I get a lot out of a stim based pre but I’ve knocked them on the head now as I find they just add to the stress of cycling, impair my sleep and overall mood big time.
I’ve been using citriline malate, beta alanine, akag, and Glycérol in mine. Super cheap and no shitty comedown.
Perhaps not as full a profile as some of the pre’s out there but if everything else is in line then very effective.
You could consider just using a stim based pre on heavy days. Better to learn how you stand output wise without untold stims in my opinion. Sometimes we get so pumped one cannot tell how much drive we are actually getting from ourselves or stims. Just thinking out load bud so excuse me.

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[Mitchell]

Yep
Good call. I seriously felt it at 65mg e3d. I started at 50mg and crept it up to gauge response, when it peaked it was all the usual tren malarkey. Shady bit of solvent in my bit, could feel it surging through every hit. Heavy hitter for sure but still somehow clean, I think I’d have been better off with 50mg all the way through and push for 12 weeks. One for another day.

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So as long as it is hemp extract it wont contain THC is that correct?

If one where to extract cannabinoids from hemp it would likely contain 1-2% thc, an amount that would not have a measurable effect. However an isolated cbd contains zero thc. I cannot say that all products contain zero thc that have been extracted from hemp, but I can say that I produce a tincture made from cbd isolate and this does not contain thc whatsoever.

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[Mitchell]

Think i may give Hex a go next run. Enth was a bit of a bitch and bored of frequent jabbing now.

Yeah I think it’s a good option if your going for an 8-12 weeker e3d I found was nice and balanced. It did start getting a bit silly after about week 7-8 I think, paranoid about the missus and all that fun stuff but fk me not as mental as enanthate. I’d have pushed for a few more weeks but my gut was taking a hammering and cocking up my appetite like never before. Likely because of all the bugs I kept picking up from me kids

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[Mitchell]

Someone made a post whilst still under the influence of a potent pre workout then!

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[Mitchell]

Most of the over the counter stuff is very low dose and the so called high dose stuff is seriously over priced.
If you get into it you are better off sourcing cbd isolate and make it yourself using mct oil.

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Sorry ballsed up me post.
Rotties I think hex is 5 days or so and enanthate 8+ but don’t quote me on that.

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Whats the half life of Hex compare to Enth?

Good answers thanks. I like the idea of running lower tren e with ace on top to have greater control, have done this in the past with good success. And I agree with ace being much easier to control in terms of dosage and sides as you can adjust quicker.

I’m actually leaning towards hex as I’ve never ran it before, though can be hard to find legit. But have seen some people swear by it saying you can use a lower dosage and get the same effects as higher tren e and ace and like mlowkey mentioned some people find it has less sides. I find that very interesting

Yeah man, my last run I was only putting in 65mg e3d to great effect.

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[Mitchell]

Cbd is from the hemp plant and not marijuana. I make a cbd tincture and all my cbd isolate is batch tested and 99.9% pure cbd with zero thc so completely safe with regards to random drug tests.

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[Mitchell]

Christophe makes a good point there. I like hex but you are very much committed to the long run as such however I still prefer it over enanthate as it ‘feels’ more clean, I tend to taper it up and back down. I feel with enanthate it builds up to such an extent that if your dosing is not specific it can become overwhelming regarding sides, positives yes but sometimes extreme sides.
Ace however can be tinkered with day to day until you find your dose meets your requirements.
One could always keep ones regular stack say e3d and put in the ace ed or eod on a separate jab/jabs. .5-1ml of oil is relatively easy to administer particularly with switching jab sites every time. This is my thinking at least. I dropped hex a couple of weeks ago mostly because it was destroying my gut flora and digestion making it unbearable.

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[Mitchell]

Oxymethalone draws water into the muscle, so if you are lean and dry it will fill you out nicely. This is why it’s used in the final week or so but you’ll have to be tight as and know how you respond. Perhaps not a great idea in prep if you haven’t used it before and do not know how you will respond.

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[Mitchell]

Have a look online and see if you can get them without prescription at a chemist. Or failing that post it to your holiday address in advance. Just got to get creative man.

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[Mitchell]

Well I ain’t gonna argue with a quack haha but I’d still opt for stable. I get horny asf on sust but also a temperamental twat on it too. It’s like I want ALL the sex but I’m such a twat that I don’t get it haha now I’m a stable horny twat????

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[Mitchell]

Good dose of natures finest with your good lady. Add that to your stack and you’ll sleep like a baby.

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