[Nate Otoni]

Been using Chiron for almost a year. Everything has been spot on

[Nate Otoni]

I like ralox during blast 30mg ed to prevent anything from popping up is perfect.

Barely any side effects compared to nolva.

Felt nolva dried me up a little and maybe just me but felt it messed with my mood a bit.

Also not sure if true but from some research that I have done its not good to use nolva while on nandrolones.

Before I had gyno surgery I did a 6 month ralox blast of 90mg day for a month then 60mg a day for another 5. Helped reduce my gyno by about 50% but i was not satifised and had the surgery done.

[Nate Otoni]

Hey bro ,

You mentioned taking your physique to the next level. Hgh is not whats gonna do that for you , specially 1-2 ius a day that is a very low dose. You might get some fat burning benefits from that dose but thats literally it.

To see any muscle volume benefit from HGH you will need at LEAST 4ius a day even that is a low dose if your trying see noticeable changes to your physique. 5-6 IU a day I feel is best for that.

Even then you still need make sure your diet, training and obviously gear cycle is in check.

Also GH takes 3+ months of 4+ ius a day for you to even start notice any muscle development.

What comes sooner then that is fat burning.

[Nate Otoni]

Looking amazing bro , been following this for a while. Quick question all that primo with lower test , specially prop that doesnt aromatize as much. Doesnt that crash your estrogen?

[Nate Otoni]

If your running some wet compounds like deca/npp helps keep water a little bit down and keeps your libido higher because for some when running nandrolones there libido drops somewhat
Controls certain estrogen related side effects but does not lower your estro. 50mg a day split throughout day should do the job if not up to 75mg or so.

[Nate Otoni]

Bro science or not but everytime i tried to run deca/npp higher then test i had libido issues. I always try to run my test at least 100mgs higher then nandrolones. Even when taking anti Es and Caber.

[Nate Otoni]

Rightt onnn ! Thanks a lot homies ! I almost fried my brain trying to do the math (not really a math guy) lol

[Nate Otoni]

Best decision i ever made. Had it done 5 months ago. After 1 week was doing light cardio after 2 weeks light legs after 3 weeks light arms. After 4 weeks was alrdy doing every body party except for chest with decent weight. After 6 weeks full send mode, recovered and healed perfect. No pain after , surgery was quick 2 hours tops. Good luck bro your gonna love to look in the mirror after about a month when most swelling and etc has gone away, life changing shit. Ps: buy a compression shirt like those body sculpting ones way better.

[Nate Otoni]

Week one thats hard to tell. Ik npp kicks in fast but one week and already down its strange specially low dose. I would tough it out for at least a month to make sure.

I been on primo and test for 2 months now feeling great.
Added npp 2 weeks ago 250mg a week and still feel great.
And im very sensitive to compounds when it comes feeling down
2 compounds that i will never run again for that reason is tren and EQ destroys my happines in life.

[Nate Otoni]

Honestly bro anadrol for bulking is wacky sometimes it can screw up your apetite does mine which makes it very hard to put all the meals down. But id use it to kick start cycle or at the back end of a cycle when your gainz stalled a little.

[Nate Otoni]

He left a small amount of the gland in like a lot of plastic surgeons do so the nipple doesnt cave in , specially me who has pretty big areolas lol
Also thank you i will reduce my test to see if it helps so i dont need take anti E.

[Nate Otoni]

Only other option raloxifine 30-60mgs a day and obviously keep your e2 in check with adex or aromasin.

[Nate Otoni]

Did both of mine 3 months ago. In the US though same guy who did Jay cutlers and many pros in boston.
Rick silverman.
No scars, he doesnt remove whole gland leaves tiny piece in specially if you have bigger areolas. And slight lipo done.
8k total was out for the procedure and took about 2 hours maybe lil less.

If your still on the fence about it like everyone usually is before doing it.
I will tell you do it! Best decision you will ever make the relief you get is insane im 3+ months post op and everyday i still get glimpses of my nipples during the day and always brings a smile to my face and satisfaction.
After 1 month i was back in swing of things in gym after 1 and half month i was full power in gym again.

[Nate Otoni]

I pin MWF but i do

Monday early am

Weds afternoon

Friday night

Feel like it helps spread it out a little more even. Most likely makes no difference but helps my OCD ass sleep better at night lol

[Nate Otoni]

Personally I would go

300 test / 300 primo only

At week 5-6 get bloods done – check there are no gyno issues

Then decide on adding NPP or an oral

This will tell you if you need n AI etc

Meal plan looks fine as a starting base

Thank you for the feedback Hilly,
I will start off with primo and test then and see how that turns out safer that way makes sense, also would like to avoid ai’s as much as possible.

I will also be taking either 30mg raloxifine day or 5mg nolva a day for safety measure basicly while on cycle (traumatized by gyno , never wanna get that shit again lol)