[Nate Otoni]

For estro lowering proprieties id do EQ but if you can put your hands on legit primo even better. EQ is known to fuck with your mood. Did with me gave me a little depression. Primo and test with estro in range feels great no mental issues. Masteron doesnt really lower estro from my understanding it only masks the high estro sides like gyno and etc

[Nate Otoni]

Nolvadex wont control estrogen from my understanding. All it does is block estrogen from going to your nipples. So you will still have other high estro side effects but wont get itchy/sensitive nips.
Might dry you up a little too.
If you want to control estrogen on cycle you should use arimidex or aromasin.

[Nate Otoni]

I also train at 5am. What works best for me and still get great pumps and strength is:

Carb meal before bed 9pm ish. 60-80g carbs.

Wake at 4:30 have a shake that is pre made next to my bed of

1 cup of oats 1 scoop of whey and 1g salt mixed with 24oz water.

Blending the raw oats seem to not whey me down and digests quick.

On my way gym at 5am i drink pre workout with salt mixed with 16oz water.

During workout i drink about 14oz gatorade water mixed with hydration EEAs and 1g salt.

[Nate Otoni]

Yes thats my goal. As anyone else here Ai doesn’t rlly make us feel that good and has other unwanted side effects.
Im going to do micro eod shots for now.

When i blast again after im recovered from my gyno surgery in a month im going to add 300mg primo wk and up the test to 300mg wk. In hopes that the primo helps that i wont need Ai.

[Nate Otoni]

Been cruising on 180mg test E a week for over a month. NO ai – theres your issue, your cruising dosage is too high. Drop it to 120-150mg pw. – and increase your injection dosing frequency to as frequently as possible. – this will increase the stability of blood levels and in turn mean the aromatise enzyme cant act upon large surges of test administration from injecting infrequently. — less tes to act upon means less to aromatise. – in the meantime you could take a very small amount od adex 0.25 every 3rd/4th day for a couple of weeks until the effects of inproving your cruise dosages and dosing comes into affect
Another thing – you said you didnt need an ai last cruise at some dosage, – likely a reason for this is you coud have more adipose tissue on you increasing aromatisation rates

Thank you for your response!
I will start doing eod instead of 2x a week. Also gonna drop it to 150ish mg a week.
Just took .25 adex also.
Will see how i feel take another .25 sometime end of next week.
Will draw blood again in about 3 weeks to a month and see.

[Nate Otoni]

Forgot to add that this high estro has been going on since my blast so its a leftover from the blast. Before when i cruised on 180mg wk of test E i didnt need Ai.

[Nate Otoni]

Yes that makes a lot of sense.
Thank you everyone for the responses.
I will keep on my trt.

[Nate Otoni]

Im talking surgery in general not just gyno surgery.

[Nate Otoni]

Im getting it done in boston MA USA

The Dr specializes in gyno surgery.

He did Jay Cutler, Jose raymond and more.

Dr Rick Silverman

7.6k total with hospital fees and etc.

Lipo gland excision