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So if you’re on test primo and tren then just stop the tren when you finish your cut. Let the food do the rebound then add another compound if you wish like npp when you stall. t3 wise thats fine to just stop as your dose is 25mg, i use sea kelp to help with natural production. I wouldn’t bother with them clem as this won’t impact your thyroid, it may could help with the last few weeks of conditioning if you wish to add it for that. Slowly increase your food as you move into your offseason. So perhaps 5000kcal to 1000kcals initially then slowly progress, keep a moderate amount of activity for digestion and if you get too sloppy pull back for a week at a time before pushing the cals again.

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Thank you Ryan, I appreciate the help mate.

My t3 dose is 50mcg, stupidly started at that amount as I’ve always been told to do so.. would you taper to 25 for a week or two or just stop totally and supplement with sea kelp until thyroid is in check? I have a medichecks thyroid plus kit here to use for when I stop the t3.

And last question…. how long after stopping the t3 and and tren would you wait to increase calories by 500-1000? I really don’t want to get fat so I was planning on upping them by like 200 at a time.

[NMD]

Ah fuck I will go ahain

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Though you might have tried to post a voice note. As Haider said it hasn’t worked for some reason pal ????????

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Thank you guys. I have removed the cashews from the plan ???????? much appreciated

[NMD]

I would say this is complete fine buddy
Have you ever tracked tour heart rate before and is this out of the ordinary?

thanks pal … no never before. I recently purchased an Apple Watch, stumbled on the health app and seen what it was.
After a google search I panicked ????[/quote]
There you go man, keep track but this is a completely normal and healthy heart [/quote]
Thank you Jamie!

[NMD]

I would say this is complete fine buddy
Have you ever tracked tour heart rate before and is this out of the ordinary?

thanks pal … no never before. I recently purchased an Apple Watch, stumbled on the health app and seen what it was.

After a google search I panicked ????

[NMD]

I gotta agree with Ryan here. Unless you are trying to get contest ready lean, i’d keep orals out.
Just up your injectables.
Also, I’m assuming you wont change anything soon. 3 weeks in on a diet isn’t much, you should be able to go another 6-8 or so weeks before you need to do anything. If you start losing strength, I’m assuming your cals are too low and you’re dieting too hard.

Yes mate I wouldn’t be changing anything any time soon, was just asking out of curiosity. I know a lot of guys who like to run oxys, dbol etc. Whilst in a deficit, which goes again the ‘norm’ but they find if very benifical. It was just really to see what the general consensus would be on here to be fair![/quote]
400mg would be a good dose with little sides, i would add primo or npp 400mg for a growing phase, both have mild impacts on bloods. Test wise if you micro dose you won’t need an ai. so 100mg eod say for example.
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Just a quick one mate. Say for example I get lean enough whilst on the 250mg test and 300mg primo a week, then I want to move into a reverse diet … would you keep the stack the same and add NPP, or would you just drop the primo then and switch it for NPP?
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So from a cut to an offseason? initially change nothing as the extra food will do the work the when it stalls add some npp.

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Thanks Ryan. Just a quick one…

In theory if I were to add tren ace at 150mg per week for the last 6 weeks of the cut, how would you personally transition from cut to offseason?

As I am taking T3 as well at the moment, my thought were to add tren ace last 6 weeks of the cut, drop the T3 the last 2 weeks, introduce clen to compensate for 2-4 weeks while thyroid begins to recover, then start to reverse diet? Does that sound about right?

[NMD]

Just switched tweaked my whole diet slightly. Hopefully this will digest better… plus I get some red meat. Lovely.

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Why no protein in your pre workout meal? Also you have 4 or 5 meals a day with rice, have you thought about some different carb sources to add in a bit of variety? Maybe sweet or white potatoes, wraps, pasta etc. If you don’t have a very active job, you might consider having more pro/fat meals on your rest days too in place of some of the carbs.

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I’m already having 250g of protein a day, I think any more would be unnecessary to be fair when I could use the extra carbs for energy. Also I have been eating breakfast then around an hour later Ill have my oats, then train an hour after that.

The rice is more for convince in prep to be fair with work. It’s cooked weight so it’s a packet spaced over 4 meals. Still only works out I’m having less than 100g carbs a day on rest days.

[NMD]

Just switched tweaked my whole diet slightly. Hopefully this will digest better… plus I get some red meat. Lovely.

[NMD]

Nuts are very high in fibre and difficult to break down, so I don’t think it’s unusual to see some undigested matter in your stool. If you’re not having any discomforting digestive issues then I wouldn’t be too concerned and I expect you’ll be getting some of the nutrients from them. Reduce the amount you’re having or swap them out for a different food if you’re worried and be sure to chew all your meals well.

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Think I’m going to swap them out. Thanks Clare!

[NMD]

Time for the cashews to be swapped out iso then mate

Would I be okay swapping the cashews out for the same caloric equivalent of EVOO per meal? Works out 15gx4 meals cashews roughly to 1table spoon of EVOO over 3 instead, leaving one rice meal just carb and protein.

Also, on my training days my fats decrease. I’m eating So I have 5g of cashews with each meal instead of 15g. If I were to swap with EVOO it equals 1 table spoon. Would you have the fat source with the last meal or sooner in the day for optimal fat loss? Or doesn’t it matter? (I’m also eating eggs for breakfast as another fat source)

[NMD]

Hey Nathan,
Probably best just to assess your eating habits..
Are you chewing your meals?
Eating without distractions?
Drinking fluid away from meals?
If you’re ticking these boxes just remove the cashews and focus on hitting your fats from another source

Yes I’m chewing my meals. I always make sure I’m sitting down and chilled whilst eating. I don’t drink outside of my meals though. I find I’m having to constantly pee as it is, so avoid doing so!

[NMD]

Supplement with iodine and you will be fine bud as long as you don’t run crazy doses for crazy long

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By iodine, do you just mean like a generic sea kelp supplement? I have abused T3 stupidly over the last year, come on and off it, running up to 75mcg a day at times. I was off it for 10 weeks, got fat, mostly to do with my terrible diet, then when I started cutting again I stupidly added it back in at 50mcg. Just gunna see it out until the end of this cut and then drop it once I have reached my desired body fat is my best bet to maintain steady fat loss, for another 8-10, weeks before I reverse diet. I know it’s not ideal but I’ve sort of fucked up by adding it to soon now.
Edit – I wish I joined on here a long time ago, or started listening to your stuff a while ago. I have been given a lot a bad advice and misinformation in the past, hence why I’ve done this stupid shit.
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Did you mean to reply that pal?[/quote]
Yes bud did you get it.

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No sorry pal, not quite sure what It means. I just see lines/underscores

[NMD]

Supplement with iodine and you will be fine bud as long as you don’t run crazy doses for crazy long

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By iodine, do you just mean like a generic sea kelp supplement? I have abused T3 stupidly over the last year, come on and off it, running up to 75mcg a day at times. I was off it for 10 weeks, got fat, mostly to do with my terrible diet, then when I started cutting again I stupidly added it back in at 50mcg. Just gunna see it out until the end of this cut and then drop it once I have reached my desired body fat is my best bet to maintain steady fat loss, for another 8-10, weeks before I reverse diet. I know it’s not ideal but I’ve sort of fucked up by adding it to soon now.
Edit – I wish I joined on here a long time ago, or started listening to your stuff a while ago. I have been given a lot a bad advice and misinformation in the past, hence why I’ve done this stupid shit.
@kuba1000hotmail-co-uk-cielen
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Did you mean to reply that pal?

[NMD]

I gotta agree with Ryan here. Unless you are trying to get contest ready lean, i’d keep orals out.
Just up your injectables.
Also, I’m assuming you wont change anything soon. 3 weeks in on a diet isn’t much, you should be able to go another 6-8 or so weeks before you need to do anything. If you start losing strength, I’m assuming your cals are too low and you’re dieting too hard.

Yes mate I wouldn’t be changing anything any time soon, was just asking out of curiosity. I know a lot of guys who like to run oxys, dbol etc. Whilst in a deficit, which goes again the ‘norm’ but they find if very benifical. It was just really to see what the general consensus would be on here to be fair![/quote]
400mg would be a good dose with little sides, i would add primo or npp 400mg for a growing phase, both have mild impacts on bloods. Test wise if you micro dose you won’t need an ai. so 100mg eod say for example.

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Just a quick one mate. Say for example I get lean enough whilst on the 250mg test and 300mg primo a week, then I want to move into a reverse diet … would you keep the stack the same and add NPP, or would you just drop the primo then and switch it for NPP?

Thanks

[NMD]

I gotta agree with Ryan here. Unless you are trying to get contest ready lean, i’d keep orals out.
Just up your injectables.
Also, I’m assuming you wont change anything soon. 3 weeks in on a diet isn’t much, you should be able to go another 6-8 or so weeks before you need to do anything. If you start losing strength, I’m assuming your cals are too low and you’re dieting too hard.

Yes mate I wouldn’t be changing anything any time soon, was just asking out of curiosity. I know a lot of guys who like to run oxys, dbol etc. Whilst in a deficit, which goes again the ‘norm’ but they find if very benifical. It was just really to see what the general consensus would be on here to be fair![/quote]
400mg would be a good dose with little sides, i would add primo or npp 400mg for a growing phase, both have mild impacts on bloods. Test wise if you micro dose you won’t need an ai. so 100mg eod say for example.

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Thanks mate