[Norway92]

for me personally.

mast – makes me feel better when using other drugs, increases free test – in a prep seems to give a better look
EQ – controls E2 super well, I feel good on it and it seems to increase performance in terms of endurance which will be from the slight increase in RBC
Primo – controls E2 ok but not as effective as EQ – ideal for when running lower doses/cruise –

i cant say I truly notice much of a difference with the look between the drugs if im doing things right to control E2 as that for most dictates the look.

Total mg of drugs dictates more to muscle growth than specific drugs and its almost impossible to say which works better for me.

blood work is always the same with any of these drugs in TBH over the years

For me there purposes comes down to – how well they control E2 and how well an individual reacts to each one – Exactly the same as any other drug

very curious about EQ and if it lowers estrogen in everyone or is it just some people? As i got hold on big amount of bold cyp 200mg and the pip aint too bad so I can live with that. How long will it be till I can eventually feel the estrogen lowering efffect? is it invidually, or once its saturated like 3-5 weeks as any other cypionate ester?
As mast and primo kills my hair. I aromatize quite heavily and gets sensitive nips easily so i stay away from tren and npp unfortunately as that makes everything way worse. I love test/primo test/mast.

[Norway92]

What’s your previous use been like ? Have you used these compounds before ?

Yes ive used npp/deca before

No never used bold cyp. Ive used mostly test/primo at dosages of total 700mg-1100mg together

[Norway92]

what i would recommend doing is starting with a slightly lower dose and getting hormones checked at week 5.

Potentially

400mg test, 250mg EQ and 150mg NPP – total load 800mg.

Run this and then test bloods, see how you feel/look and how progress is and then asses there and make any changes if needed

Thank you again, is 250mg eq enough to get the vascularity benefits? Going on holiday😂

[Norway92]

Ask my doctor André Rizzutti on instagram, he can follow you for 8 weeks and give you a real personnalized plan to keep your hair at their maximum, will probably give you a vitamin cocktail next to the finasteride to boost all of the growing phase

Finasteride has a really precise way to work, there is a maximum time of use at a certain dosage but also a “detox phase” lowering the dose step by step.

He is also working a lot with body builders so he knows that next to it you are enhanced and he can advise you the best according to your protocol, and also doing blood work to check all your hormonal pannel will be very useful for him to take care of your hair recovery journey

Thank you, cant seem to find him on instagram, but i will def contact his profile. But ima try find some finasteride, it must atleast help.

[Norway92]

Agree with Kuba – lowering the test won’t make any difference now so is pointless n I wouldn’t want to lower it full
Stop any way

I do see a benefit in some dropping var out for halo but as Kuba says I would not be adding it on top. Just adding toxicity n a bit silly imo.

Okay, would dropping the var and add 20mg of halo make me look better and is 20mg enough? Then id try it to be honest, it will help me through these 2 weeks easier aswell i guess.

[Norway92]

Which test are you running if it’s test e it won’t do anything lowering now
Your already taking 100 mg of orals halo won’t do anything on top imo

Are you lean enough ? Hardness does not come from drugs – this comes from low body fat so are you fat free ?

I dont know the bf% but im not far away from last time i competed and then i was the hardest one and i placed second. Now i have about 5kg more lean tissue added. ive had a short prep this time not ideal iknow, and rapid weightloss, but i wanted to do it. I will have to go hard until next friday, shows on saturday morning. I know it depends most on how lean i am when it comes to hardness and cant really relay on drugs.

Yes its test e unfortunately, so it wont work lowering it from today? Last pin of test e was last thursday. Last show 8 months ago i measured 3,9 bf 3 weeks out from show and i lost 3kg more after my coach measured me to 3,9%.

So adding 20mg of halo wont add any better visuals to my physique on stage?

[Norway92]

also your HDL is low as primo does this.

Your LDL is high so you need to address this – HIT cardio, look at fat sources in diet and add in TBJP heart care

Thank you. My fat source in diet is 10g oliven oil at each meal, with 20g peanutbutter at breakfast. I do tend to aromatize alot. I think the test mite be bunk so ive changed test source now. How much hit cardio do i need to do? And what other fat sources should i includd in my mealplan?[/quote]

I would look to do 2-3 sessions per week.

as long as your including sources high im omega 3 such as extra virgin olive oil, oily fish such as salmon and a good quality omega like TBJP omega pro IMO you are good. [/quote]
Thank you. I really appriciate it. Ive told my coach to put little more healhy fats in my diet like salmon, and that i want to add HIT cardio to improve my cholesterol. I was hoping all steps and heavy work would be enough for, but i suppose i gotta do some HIT cardio as you advice me to. Ive using good quality omega already. Hopefully better bloodwork soon!

[Norway92]

I used deus medical for my prep. My friend is a reseller of them and i must say it worked very good, they do have labtest of every batch. Had massive hair loss on their masteron and bloodwork showed the test is legit. I use their gh now.

[Norway92]

also your HDL is low as primo does this.

Your LDL is high so you need to address this – HIT cardio, look at fat sources in diet and add in TBJP heart care

Thank you. My fat source in diet is 10g oliven oil at each meal, with 20g peanutbutter at breakfast. I do tend to aromatize alot. I think the test mite be bunk so ive changed test source now. How much hit cardio do i need to do? And what other fat sources should i includd in my mealplan?

[Norway92]

Thyroid looks fine

I would be checking hormone markers and kidney markers

Doctor decided to be a idiot and refusing to give me bloods for hormone panel. I must go private again to get them will do once i can.
I did change my cycle from 300 test, 400 primo, 100 tren 1 week ago to 250 test, 600 primo when this started happening.
About 6 weeks on cycle, i cruised on 200 test 100 primo before that until my lipids were good to blast.

Kidneys are
eGFR 90
S-creatinine 77 ref is 60-105
S-urinstoff 4,7 ref is 3.5-8.1
Using 10 iu lantus in morning.
Had last show 16 september. Gained about 15-17kg since then. Even the lower abs can be seen still. dont know how its even possible after being back to my max weight where i started my prep for that show already, had no abs at all just big fat belly lol.
Eating 4000 cals on training days and off days 3600. Only have one cheatmeal on saturdays.
Fasted blood sugar is 4,6 and 45min after breakfast is 5.9.
My lifts are progressing every workout and im feeling really good except for the horrible edema in my legs when wearing socks.
Walking about 15000-20000 steps daily, split is
Pull, push, off legs, arms, off, pull, push, off, legs off.

[Norway92]

Holding water is likely coming from your gh so I would suggest pulling that out

I tried, for over a week but didnt help

[Norway92]

Diuretics from doc did not help at all. Bloods showed high estrogen but im using tren so dont know if its correct reading. I did a desperate attempt, because this was starting to get real annoying as it was painful wearing socks and couldnt wear socks and work shoes for full day at work. Sunday night i took half arimidex, monday morning already 50-60% improvement while wearing socks. Took another half arimidex monday night, now my ankles/calves completely normal and can wear two pair of socks and work shoes with no issues😂 im adjusting my cycle from 300 test, 400 prim 100 tren to 250 test, 500 prim, 100 tren, and will add back gh. Hopefully this adjustment is enough to control the estrogen

[Norway92]

Pfizer gh does this to me. I’d pull that first bud. See what happens

Decided to pull it out and see if it helps. Then add gh back in when its sorted, and start at 3 iu in morning instead of 4 iu at night, which have worked in the past, then see if i can up the dosage after some weeks if it goes fine!

[Norway92]

Have you ever used HGH before? If so have you ever experienced edema before? If estro is high is possible that you aromatise easily

Yes i used 3 iu everyday for 5 months during my prep, had no issues then, actually same package of gh im using now. But now i do 4 iu at night instead of 3 iu at morning. No it didnt give me any edema until now as i intruduced gh to my cycle a again at 4iu at night.

[Norway92]

I agree with Hilly. It’s likely the GH. Remove it and see if it goes away, then you’ll know for sure. If it does, then wait until it completely subsides, then try a lower dose next time. If it doesn’t, get a full bloodwork panel done and see if there’s something else going on.

Will try, thank you!