[Philipp Winsel]

remove all eggs and replace with another protein source, It’s a common food allergy. If it’s not that do the same with the chicken. Stop cider vinegar because that can cause issues. Replace peanut butter for almond. If i had the above diet.my stomach would be a mess, now i eat only fish with occasional beef meals. Find the foods that work for you. good luck

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No more chicken ?

[Philipp Winsel]

Use foods that digest well.Which I assume you aren’t given your previous question on digestion issues?

I alway use foods that digest well I just seem to have developed a food allergy to eggs or rice, which always digested perfectly but all of a sudden they’re causing problems. Jam sits super with me, just curious about the sugar outside training window.
As Riz states I would be very surprised if it was rice causing you issues.
You may need to re asses whole meal plan.
As per your question. There is no issue on using easier to digest foods for meals.
I’m off season last year hitting my heaviest I was using jasmine rice n sweet chilli sauce most meals.
As well as ground rice n honey
Rice cereal n honey

With what do you normally eat your cereal aside ? Milk or Whey ?[/quote]

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And when using full fat milk this won’t slow down absorption of the carbs out of the cereal which we intentionally want to be fast fast post workout ? [/quote]

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And If for the sake of it I want to use a fast protein post, just because my head, could I use EAAs again post workout when already having them intra ? Also 1 Hour post and 2 hours after finishing my intra ?
If so would 15g EAAs here be enough plus some carbs of course ? [/quote]

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And combining chicken with cereal would be alright ? [/quote]
Not in the same bowel lol
Fine by me tho yes

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No not in the same bowl, just as a meal, cereal with milk and chicken

[Philipp Winsel]

Use foods that digest well.Which I assume you aren’t given your previous question on digestion issues?

I alway use foods that digest well I just seem to have developed a food allergy to eggs or rice, which always digested perfectly but all of a sudden they’re causing problems. Jam sits super with me, just curious about the sugar outside training window.
As Riz states I would be very surprised if it was rice causing you issues.
You may need to re asses whole meal plan.
As per your question. There is no issue on using easier to digest foods for meals.
I’m off season last year hitting my heaviest I was using jasmine rice n sweet chilli sauce most meals.
As well as ground rice n honey
Rice cereal n honey

With what do you normally eat your cereal aside ? Milk or Whey ?[/quote]

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[/quote]
And when using full fat milk this won’t slow down absorption of the carbs out of the cereal which we intentionally want to be fast fast post workout ? [/quote]

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[/quote]
And If for the sake of it I want to use a fast protein post, just because my head, could I use EAAs again post workout when already having them intra ? Also 1 Hour post and 2 hours after finishing my intra ?
If so would 15g EAAs here be enough plus some carbs of course ? [/quote]

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[/quote]
And combining chicken with cereal would be alright ?

[Philipp Winsel]

Use foods that digest well.Which I assume you aren’t given your previous question on digestion issues?

I alway use foods that digest well I just seem to have developed a food allergy to eggs or rice, which always digested perfectly but all of a sudden they’re causing problems. Jam sits super with me, just curious about the sugar outside training window.
As Riz states I would be very surprised if it was rice causing you issues.
You may need to re asses whole meal plan.
As per your question. There is no issue on using easier to digest foods for meals.
I’m off season last year hitting my heaviest I was using jasmine rice n sweet chilli sauce most meals.
As well as ground rice n honey
Rice cereal n honey

With what do you normally eat your cereal aside ? Milk or Whey ?[/quote]

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http://www.trainedbyjp-nutrition.com – highest quality supplements on the market.

[/quote]
And when using full fat milk this won’t slow down absorption of the carbs out of the cereal which we intentionally want to be fast fast post workout ? [/quote]

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[/quote]
And If for the sake of it I want to use a fast protein post, just because my head, could I use EAAs again post workout when already having them intra ? Also 1 Hour post and 2 hours after finishing my intra ?

If so would 15g EAAs here be enough plus some carbs of course ?

[Philipp Winsel]

Use foods that digest well.Which I assume you aren’t given your previous question on digestion issues?

I alway use foods that digest well I just seem to have developed a food allergy to eggs or rice, which always digested perfectly but all of a sudden they’re causing problems. Jam sits super with me, just curious about the sugar outside training window.
As Riz states I would be very surprised if it was rice causing you issues.
You may need to re asses whole meal plan.
As per your question. There is no issue on using easier to digest foods for meals.
I’m off season last year hitting my heaviest I was using jasmine rice n sweet chilli sauce most meals.
As well as ground rice n honey
Rice cereal n honey

With what do you normally eat your cereal aside ? Milk or Whey ?[/quote]

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http://www.trainedbyjp-nutrition.com – highest quality supplements on the market.

[/quote]
And when using full fat milk this won’t slow down absorption of the carbs out of the cereal which we intentionally want to be fast fast post workout ?

[Philipp Winsel]

Sooo… Hey guys, no need for introductions many of you know me. New peoples… hey.

I am currently 2 weeks post show. First check in was today with Jordan

London PCA win A.M weight: 193lbs

British finals (5th) A.M weight: 201.4lbs (much better look- fuller, harder, bigger, dryer or whatever the kids say these days)

This morning 2 weeks post show: 207lbs (Check in pics below)

Currently 2 weeks into a cruise of 250mg sustanon every 7 days & 0.5mg arimidex twice/week, 25mcg T3

current diet updated from today:

Workout Day Meals

Meal 1 – 250g salmon, 5g evoo

Meal – 215g chicken breast, 1 egg, 130g rice

Pre: 250g chicken/turkey breast, 90g ground rice, 20g nut butter, 65g berries Intra: 70g HBCD, 30g EAA, 5g creatine

Post: 250g chicken breast, 130g rice, 120g rice cereal

Meal – 250g 5% beef, 1 wrap/pitta, 200g sweet potato

Pre bed: 4 whole eggs, 6 whites, 20g nut butter

Rest day Meals

Meal 1 – 250g salmon, 5g evoo

Meal 2 – 250g 5% beef, 130g rice

Meal 3 – 300g white fish, 500g sweet potato, 10g coconut oil

Meal 4- 250g chicken, 130g rice, 10g evoo

Pre bed – 4 whole eggs, 6 whites, 20g nut butter

The goal this offseason is just size all over. I’m still a junior and will be competing next year as a junior again so no specific body parts needed just bigger allover and don’t lose my legs when I prep…

Strength goals in the gym

6 plate hacks x 5

320kg deadlift x 3

300kg deadlift x 5

Squat 5 plates/side x 8

LET OFFSEASON COMMENCE

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Hey Dan,
are you using a whole food protein source with the chicken and not something faster digesting like whey because you are already having the EAAs Intra ? Also, with what do you eat the cereal ?

thanks

[Philipp Winsel]

Use foods that digest well.Which I assume you aren’t given your previous question on digestion issues?

I alway use foods that digest well I just seem to have developed a food allergy to eggs or rice, which always digested perfectly but all of a sudden they’re causing problems. Jam sits super with me, just curious about the sugar outside training window.
As Riz states I would be very surprised if it was rice causing you issues.

You may need to re asses whole meal plan.

As per your question. There is no issue on using easier to digest foods for meals.

I’m off season last year hitting my heaviest I was using jasmine rice n sweet chilli sauce most meals.

As well as ground rice n honey

Rice cereal n honey

With what do you normally eat your cereal aside ? Milk or Whey ?

[Philipp Winsel]

Hi Philipp, I personally use whey isolate as it sits best on my stomach. However if whey concentrate or other sits better with you then by all means use something different. Digestability is most important! Although your drinking EAAs during there will still be demand for protein after your done training. This doesn’t have to be whey protein or other you can have a solid meal like chicken or white fish which is easily digestible also.

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Thank you Louis ! I’m always breaking my head thinking I need a whey post workout because of fast absorption.

When eating a solid meal, do you have advice on how many fats it should have max, since chicken etc comes with trace fat too as well as cereal ?

[Philipp Winsel]

No, you can wait around an hour, then have a whole food meal instead. Some lean meat/fish with easily digesting carbs for example.

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Would Cereal with almond milk and some rice cakes with chicken be fine ?

[Philipp Winsel]

Meal plan for recomp sept 2020
2400kcal – 300p/196c/49f
1 – 2 eggs/250ml whites and 50 COR
2/3/4 – 150g chicken/150g cooked basmati / spinach
5 – 200g raw weight salmon
Pwo – 20g EAA and 40g cyclic dex
1 x high day a week on sat. Additional 200g carbs n a free meal
Rest days I avoid carbs with meal 1 n have 4 whole eggs

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Any reason for the EAAs post workout over an isolate ?

[Philipp Winsel]

Use foods that digest well.
Which I assume you aren’t given your previous question on digestion issues?

I alway use foods that digest well I just seem to have developed a food allergy to eggs or rice, which always digested perfectly but all of a sudden they’re causing problems.

Jam sits super with me, just curious about the sugar outside training window.

[Philipp Winsel]

Are you eating similar foods that you did during your cut or introduced new foods? Are there certain foods you tend to eat a lot of? Intolerances can sometimes appear when new foods are added or if you’ve eaten the same food over and over for a long time. Sounds like you may need to do more of a strict elimination diet to identify what’s causing you issues. I’d take out any artificial sweeteners, gluten, dairy, eggs and caffeine and just eat plain grilled meat/fish, veg such as asparagus or spinach, berries and rice for several days, then see if you improve. Then it’s a case of slowly re-introducing one food back in at a time and assessing.

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No I didn’t eat anything different. Just less. Don’t know if my stomach maybe is over worked with the suddenly higher food amounts, but the fact that it lasts so long now leaves me clueless.

[Philipp Winsel]

For what reason should someone eat food they can’t digest and cause bloating for sure your body want complete absorb the nutrients !

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So the Body will absorb all calories despite the bloating ?

[Philipp Winsel]

Da würd ich so 1,5 h als maximum ansetzen

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Auch wenn man laut aktueller Studien die proteinsynthese nur aller 3-5h maximal stimulieren kann ? Dann wäre ja eine erneute Portion Protein 1.5h später suboptimal. Oder geht es eher um die carbs und den Blutzucker in der Mahlzeit ?[/quote]
Da gehts darum energie nachzuschieben. Die proteinsynthese is ma da wurscht. Wenn man einen guten kh stoffwechsel und insulinsensitivität hat, wird man so 40-60min nach der post mahkzeit mit dem blutzucker abfallen

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Hängt aber auch von der Muskelmasse ab. Mit 80kg kann man das leichter hinauszögern als mit 120, da verpufft die postmahlzeit sofort. Und bevor ich dort unsummen auf einmal essen, mach ich das lieber in etappen

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Macht Sinn, danke dir für deine ausführlichen Antworten immer, ist so viel wert !
Hast du einen generellen Richtwert im Aufbau wieviel Carbs du an nem Tag vor dem Training bereits intus haben willst und dann nochmal Post ?
Hab aktuell 740g Carbs am Tag und fällt mir schwer zu entscheiden wie ich das aufteile.
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Nein das ist ganz unterschiedlich.
740ist echt viel, da würd ich wirklich hinterfragen ob da alles ankommt

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Carbs sind so hoch weil ich extrem aktiv bin mit Beruf und Freizeit etc. Bin täglich bei über 20.000 Schritten plus Training. Brauche die Kalorien und will das Fett nicht unnötig hochschrauben [/quote]
Das kann schon sein, auss der wrfahrung mit vielen grossen athleten weiss ich aber, dass oft weniger mehr ist. Tobi ist da ein gutes beispiel

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Ziehst du dann lieber das Fett höher um die Kalorien zu bekommen ?[/quote]
Meistens geh ich mit den kcal bewusst zurück und sehendas sie eigentlich mit 1000kcal weniger auch nicht abnehmen, was dafür spricht dass vieles unverwertet blieb und dann geh ich langsam wieder hoch

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Komme gerade aus der Diät deshalb macht runtergehen keinen Sinn leider

[Philipp Winsel]

Hey Jamie !
I am currently battling with some digestive issues such as bloating and gas, will I still absorb all the calories of my Food despite being bloated and having gas after eating ?

thanks