[primate1984]

Yes. They are in my journal

But 600 mg EQ n test range 100mmol crashed my EStro under the range minimum

So it’s dramatically effective

Sorry bro I dont get in this much I dont even know how to get to your journal . So that’s 600 eq and 600 test e I presume ? dropped your estrogen below minimum range wow didn’t think it wud be that strong

[primate1984]

It will be in my journal ?

Did u do the bloods for eq and estro ?

[primate1984]

Thanks for the heads up brother, I have been working with them for a while now. Been on Bostin’s forum for about 6 months now, anyone that wonders about my reputation can go check it out there as well.

Is there a minimum order amount ?

[primate1984]

Yes it would, there’s ton of research and plenty on YouTube in depth but main ones for me

Improved kidney function

Neuroprotective

Prevents left ventricle growth

Improved HDL

No brainer for an advanced user

Thanks again kuba. Sorry forgot to ask what’s your recommended dosage ? The least possible that brings an effect

[primate1984]

Not just this

It has so much benefits, one of many being no need for an ai.

I haven’t ever had BP issues end I will always use it whilst I am competitive as prevention

I’m a disaster for carrying water weight when bulking especially my face even when calories only 3-500 above maintenance. I’d presume trying telmisartan wud potentially help me a lot so ? Can you list a few of the other benefits if you have time ?

[primate1984]

Adding telmisartan is always a great option, water retention is caused by angiotensin. Telmisartan In short blocks it.

Also I would likely drop some bodyweight and Reduce cycle

Look at trying to get a little

Fitter too.

Same thing happens to me when I simply get fat and unfit

So is this why I’ve seen a lot of people using telmisartan lately ….to reduce water retention when bulking? Thus not needing an ai. As none of them had bp issues they said.

[primate1984]

Thanks guys . I was using test e and have swapped with diff brand of test e. Hopefully that’s it as I’ve never had those issues with mast at half the test dose or with proviron at only 25mg. Thanks again guys

[primate1984]

Sounds like a disaster this does.

Just loads of random drug additions without knowing what’s doing what it time to monitor changes.

Sounds to me like you either.

Sky high test n estro which ruined sex drive

Or

Test was fake n you bottomed estro out

However all of the yo yo additions will of only made things worse.

I would pull back to Trt and then try again with a much better cycle design and some blood work bud.

Try 400mg test , 200mg mast.

Run 6 weeks – get bloods done. Monitor how feel then progress.

Thanks for reply . I here what your saying but I’m not new to this and 750 test has always been my go to and I’ve never had a problem before with it or estro sides and no matter what compounds with it but maybe I’m responding different now that I’m older . Will follow your advice and see how I get on thanks again

[primate1984]

Hope im not hi jacking here but I’m very similar . Was running 125mg test e for about 7months straight on lockdown. Then went to 750 test 350 tren ace 400 mast e and 2nd week in no sex drive and joints hurting. Dropped the mast waited 2 weeks felt ok so in joints but no sex drive so took 25mg proviron but on second day taking it joints started feeling sore again. Waited a week tried nolva 20mg daily and same thing joints sore again so dropped it. At about week 10 now sex drive at about 20% at best is all. Took caber with last 3 weeks just incase and made no diff. Presumed I’d underdosed test and switched but made no diff . Sent off bloods but as usual the weather damaged them in the post cause have to send overseas

[primate1984]

Telmisartan is ideal in this case bud it will take care of your RBC and hematocrit.

Unless it’s caused by holding too much body fat

Telmisartan should be literally last port of call, should try and see what is causing this first and foremost

I’ve recently listened to a podcast with dr .scott howell where he recommends anyone using aas above trt doses should always be using telmisartan etc and see a few coaches have all their clients doing this now. What’s your view on this kuba ? Is there a need if your bp is in range?

[primate1984]

Very likely.

What brand of gear ?

Get bloods done

I’ve blood kit ordered. Its sp pharmaceutical, the 10ml bottle version of balkan labs. Strange because been getn them with years and never a bother. The tren and Mast on point too . 2 weeks after dropping the mast I tried 50mg of proviron for libido and that just hurt my joints again within 24hrs.

[primate1984]

Agree bud.

For me 200 test n 100 mast is the ultimate feel good / look good / perform good – cruise / low dose cycle

I tend to use this ratio as I push up lots now with clients n add things on top

So every 200mg test in cycle I will include 75-100 mast for most.

I’ve ran 750 test 400 tren 400 mast e recently and at week 4 my joints are blown off me and dick is half broke. I’m guessing it must be my test is underdosed. Never had this issue before when running same compounds at the same dosage never mind double the test

[primate1984]

I’ve used rhom all way through this offseason if it isn’t legit then my genetics must be better than it thought

Also ref blood work since adding primo my estro dropped massively and no need for any ai at all

Can I ask how much exactly your estrogen dropped by ? And what dosage of primo were you using ? As I always have issues with ai

[primate1984]

So if this is first time using insulin I would take both the gh n insulin post workout bud.

3iu gh with 4iu humalog. Over 6 weeks you can taker the insulin up to 10.

From here I would take 4-6 weeks off.

Make sure using a GDA or metformin if need to keep sensitivity up.

From here I would look to add. Small pre workout dose in personally.

Another option is to run the GH pre bed n insulin pre or post.

Can both the HGH and skin be taken immediately post workout with no time needed between the 2 shots like 5 or 10 mins if makes no difference does it ?

[primate1984]

I also don’t really understand why people are taking their BG levels if they aren’t using drugs that effect them. If your not over eating and moving adequately, you won’t have high BG levels. Imo it’s just madness people even giving that stuff a seconds attention , that focus should be going into training harder – that alone will fix any BG issues too if you train really really really hard . Yet more just random ways to not focus on the hard stuff and distract themselves with useless info

I agree and understand jordan , I was just checking now out of curiosity is all as I’ve been checking everything possible from health point of view before pushing hard again when gyms open up and usual have to push calories high to gain tissue and wud only be checking it then to see what foods I digest better in that phase