[primate1984]

You running anything for prolactin at that dosage?[/quote

Nandrolone actually decreases prolactin, test increases it, he won’t need anything to control it

“Serum prolactin level was markedly elevated during the control period. It fell during the administration of ND and increased with the use of TE.”

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/106002808001400705

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“Age is not a determinant of knowledge”

that’s interesting, so am I right in saying then…. if you were taking say 750mg of test and took double that dose of deca you dont need to worry about prolactin and deca dick , just as long as you have your estrogen in range with use of an ai

[primate1984]

I went from 95kg-130kg in the space of 1.5years using nandrolone base. It can and will build size just as effectively as any high test cycle. The difference is that unlike test, you are not mislead by the drastic increase in water weight. When you come off and dial back down, you will see more often than not that a large proportion of weight gained on high test rapidly diminishes and is not physical muscle tissue. I have messaged lee priest personally about his use of nandrolone base cycles and he confirmed it. Not to mention it was extremely common back in the 70’s-80’s. Its rather odd you have this view, considering you opening statement is ” but it was always accompanied by equally high or even higher doses of testosterone” – how can you have a valid opinion when you haven’t tried both sides of the coin. What Jordan is doing is doing, is actually trying it out for himself, he may have prior opinions and thoughts, but until he tries it, he cannot come to a hard conclusion.

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“Age is not a determinant of knowledge”

max , did Lee say he never used test as base or just experimented with deca as base for certain periods or what ?

[primate1984]

Jordan, I have met with high doses of nandrolone in the order of 1.5-2g a week, but it was always accompanied by equally high or even higher doses of testosterone. There are different points of view, but I honestly will not make a bodybuilder of a super heavyweight weight that uses low or even medium doses of testosterone, especially on offseason. Usually, testosterone doses are damn high, and anabolics are dosed lower and 99 were built, if not 100% bodybuilding monsters.

Of course I respect your opinion and I also understand that you are no longer seeking size, so here your approach seems understandable but someone who wants to achieve mega sizes will not do it on a low test and high anabolics.

Lukas , I’m curious how much an ai dosage was needed to control estrogen and blood pressure on your highest run on test and deca ?

[primate1984]

victor Richard’s has stated in a magazine interview he thought test was a crap drug with a ton of sides and to run high dose ananbolics . 2 members on getbig.com who knew him Jim magnone and Tony Doherty confirmed they talked to him about this and that a staple for him was tren/eq/var.
theres a video online aswel with Robby Robinson saying he never ever used test or even dbol back in the day , deca only offseason switching to primo for contest

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Primate I dont think there are any that I know of. EMC is in Dublin city centre so its not too far out if the way. Otherwise if you can mail back next day International youth revisited would be a choice consideration

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sorry I meant south east Ireland not Dublin, I’ve used youth revised in November , I’ll go back to them again so thanks

[primate1984]

@drdeanstmart hi dean , you mentioned before a private blood clinic in Dublin, was just curious is there any you know of in the south/south east region ?

[primate1984]

@jordanpeters if you go all npp with zero test wont you be in trouble as regards your own test will be in the gutter and no synthetic test either

[primate1984]

@kuba1000hotmail-co-uk-cielen
hi kuba, you mentioned few pages back you love primo , for offseason also why so ? I’ve never used it so also curious what are the signs you know it’s actually primo? like the constant sweating and hard to sleep tren gives.
also how long on average do your workouts take ?

[primate1984]

sounds like a neurological issue or a issue with blood flow.

i would talk to your gp and ask him for a referral letter to see a neurologist.

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would signs of anything to worry about show up in a blood test ? had them done in November

[primate1984]

yes when i go down to cruise dose of 250 I’ve gotten it a few times . can’t take sust at all either knocks the life out of me

[primate1984]

kuba, is that blast cycle on the low side seeming as your total cruise dosage was 700mg

[primate1984]

jp , I’m surprised there’s so much whey in your diet , any reason for that?

[primate1984]

Current maintenance at 41 years old

5ft8 100kg aprox 15%bf

3000cals

P270

C300

F85

That’s how my MyFitnessPal is set up but as I said making adjustments as I go,  

Getting increasingly better appetite, carbs will rise training days and protein will rise non training days. Fats won’t go over 90g intentionally.

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Pain then glory

thanks for the reply bro

[primate1984]

@ mlowkey can i ask what’s your carb / fat intake on training days vs non training ? total calories stay the same ? And what’s your fat choices on off days to hit higher fat content ?

[primate1984]

thanks for the advice guys