[Robin]

Does it work as good as lantus for bodybuilding?

[Robin]

Thanks for all the info, I’m gonna get my blood work done next week, how do I know if I can ‘cut’ back on this?

[Robin]

Ok thanks!

[Robin]

Thank you for the replies. Was curious if mast would help me build muscle faster. I had bad acne on my back with less primo compared to test, but it’s healing now since the 1:1 ratio, so I would probably have to check if it completely heals. Leaning towards adding 200mg primo or adding 100mg test and 100mg primo as it is obviously working for me.

Monday I’m going for my blood works again, will decide after those results, thank you!

[Robin]

Thank you everyone for the valuable advice! Will keep using it in modest doses when bulking, increasing towards end of bulk comparatively to my carb intake, thanks!

[Robin]

I can’t see any pictures to judge this and answer those questions.

The question regarding how old your coach looks seems very odd to me. People all thought I was 30 when I was 21 but this surely can’t mean ive abused my body some how or give any indication of this.

if he had loads of botox and filtered his pictures so he looked younger would this mean he was a better coach ?

I agree with J to – I dont think there is a need to go that high at all with it being your second cycle. Can you do of course but if your doing everything right and putting the work in over every area then you will make huge gains holding the dose as is or making very small increases only when you feel its truly needed

Ok, I can see where it may seem odd that I stated he looks older. But he is a good friend of mine and if people guess his age (he says it as well, grey hair, some rimples in the face, etc), they guess 10 years older. Which is why I was doubting his way of aas en hgh might have something to do with it. Which is why I ask opinions here on long term.

Apparently my pictures didn’t get attached to the original post. But JP’s answers were clear enough to me, thanks for the help!

[Robin]

I think 350 test only is totally fine , or try 250 test + 100 primo and see if that feels better . ( the visual is slightly better with the primo ) . I see no harm at all in using 2iu gh a day now, I don’t think you need to wait for that , as from a health perspective and tool perspective, it’s going to allow you to maximise the cycle without any additional health parameters being compromised:) . Please trust me on this with the dose and be strict with yourself , you will be SO happy you did in 2-3 years and still under 1g total buddy

Okay, I will follow your advice. One last quick question, do you think the 20 weeks “blast” is too long?

[Robin]

I think this is a solid stack maybe for your second cycle a touch higher than I would take you personally.

I’ve just moved a client from 300 test 100 primo 1st cycle, to literally 300/200 additional 10iu lantus

But it’s progression from your first test only cycle at 350mg/wk I don’t think personally you need to go to over a gram peak load 2nd cycle. I would say the 250mg start point is fine with 100mg primo. Then add 50mg test 100mg primo in 3 stints every 3/4 weeks so max would be 350mg test 300mg primo the 2iu GH would be a nice addition. If affordable. 16 weeks here would be plenty enough for a 2nd cycle.

The 3rd cycle could be the one you have just spoken about. The aim is progression with the minimal effective dose buddy.

Everyone has the potential to be the best version of themselves and if this is what you want to do and be competitive then keep doing your bloods and keep sensible like you are with all the appropriate health supps. And I’m confident you can make some solid solid progress. And be successful.

Thank you for the advice! I will discuss what Jordan said with my coach. Would you add the gh also already with the 350 or only add it in at year 2 or 3?

[Robin]

I think it ends way too high. One thing my position has changed the most on , is the need to increase doses . The people I do still help and advise have managed to make absolutely HUGE progress in the first year of use, without any dose increase at all , and then only into year 2 have we increased totals.

Imo go back in at 350mg total and don’t go over it , I bet you make another huge step forward and then still haven’t ever taken more than 350 . This then gives you room in year 3 , to go to no more than 600/650

For the whole of year 2 , then year 3 900mg total for the whole year . Your coach is wanting you at 1g in less than a year . It’s wrong

Okay, good to know, thank you very much for the advice! Would you do 350 test only then and in year 2 add primo or just up the test?