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Depends if your upper chest is a weakness or not i suppose?! If it is then it makes sense to focus on bringing it up. By adding additional stimulus you can do that then that’s what you want to be achieving obviously.

You have the option to change the split as you see fit. It doesnt need to stay as a PPL, or you can incorporate a high incline press to start with, then reduce the incline after. Try adding in some low to high cable flys to hit front delts and upper chest before the pressing. I dont see any issue with this as long as the pressing still progresses.

Lots of ways to do it.

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I never found donating to lower HCT. I had bloods done before and after over a two week window and both results had HCT near identical. Blood Cell count all slightly down but the drop wasn’t overly mirrored within my HCT. A good diet period works better for me.

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We also found wheat was making things worse with Riz in terms of hiccups which was a reflux thing.

Gaviscon can be used regularly for short term imo 3-6 weeks

Took a Gaviscon last night and this am. Still bad but will give it a go for a week or so. Will only be using Tren 4 more weeks so if it works will use it.
Diet is pretty empty now. Certainly no wheat. Mostly protein meals and 150g carbs spread over the day from rice based products and a bit of white potato. Fats at just 30-40g a day.

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On wake 20-30g glutamine I find works good to help.

Use a digestive enzyme also this will help I am using MASSZYMES.

keep water at 5l plus.

I myself am/have been using tren this off season with almost no real bad digestion issues I put this down to
doing the above.

I will use rennie sometimes if i’ve had a bigmeal/freemeal to help any issues that come with it.

I also was using NPP before no issues with my whey (Reflex ) – as soon as I put tren in I was getting a lot of gas I then removed the protein for a different brand ( mutant iso) and the gas issue was resolved.

Glutamine is in at 20-30g fasted every morning.
Water is always more than 5 liters.
I rotate proteins anyway between Dymatize, CNP and cheap ol’ Bulk Powders Whey Iso.
NPP i always feel great on. After this run i think NPP will be all i use with some test and possibly a drizzle of EQ.
Digestive Enzymes always seem to mess me up. I cant seem to get the balance right?!

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It’s usually acid related.

Try gaviscon or similar.

I usually need omeprazol pre comp when running tren

I’ll try Gaviscon as i have it to hand. First time i used Tren i got the worst reflux, but never came back since. Is Gaviscon OK to take daily for a period of time?

Why do you want to use tren so much buddy? I would look for other options

I use it because it works when dieting better than anything else i’ve used. Is it need? Of course not. I could just use Test, or nothing. But using a touch of Tren (150mg) the last 5-6 weeks of a diet just works for me.

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Cant say its ever hurt me in getting in shape and i live on squash.

Pretty sure that Sasan said on here that before the British or even NY he was drinking bottles of diet coke as his only fluids for couple of days before the show.

I’m no boffin, but if it spikes insulin then what will that cause? There’s not enough calories to store as fat, and any effects to weight loss i imagine would be short lived as the body would soon recognize its not a food/energy source. @hilly

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Ha yeah i’ve not had it this Tren run yet! In 6-8 weeks i may get it once or twice. Almost always with quad jabs which im avoiding this time round. It literally feeds like your lungs are shrinking inside your body, while you just took a massive hit off a BONG. 30 seconds of misery.

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Things like avocado, steaks, oily fish etc you are ultimately just guessing anyway. No two products will have the same amount of fat in them. For plants the growing conditions and climate will dictate the nutrient content to varying degrees. Same with animal products. Just like humans some animals will be leaner, some will be fattier. This will be exaggerated via diet and again growing conditions and how the farmers finish the “product” before slaughter.

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As long as appetite isn’t effected then crack on.

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If you’ve run drugs PEDs before which if you’re using 500mg AND NPP i’ll assume you have, then you must know if it enough?

Everyone is different so its impossible to say for certain. But for myself i would use 12.5mg e3d on that kind of dose, probably 6.25mg eod if pushing weight up as i’d want to be just over estro top range..

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I also have a bro fear of dropping below 2000-2500. But as everyone has says its just a case of digging in deep and if it means eating nothing but dust then that’s what you have to do. Sometimes a refeed for a day or two helps me. Double or Triple carbs and low fats and after a slight increase i’ll drop to a new low. Do you utilize cheat meals at all? Again same principle but not quite as effective IMO but better for a social life.

If you’re assisted then 6-8 weeks into dieting i would start to use Clen “on and off” and T3 in low doses. Also refeeds and cheat meals would be needed to get me to drop.

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It will also do with the esters. I can use some Test 400mg/mls but they need to be cypionate, decanoate and undecanoate based.
Anything with Prop or Enth in higher levels will often be painful. The Sphinx 300mg/ml always gave some bite, but the Tri-Test was 200mg Enth and 100mg each of Decanoate and undecanoate and that was pain free.

Prop ester is usually painful. I just cant use it in any way. Tren Ace is fine, but any Test Prop just cripples me. Even 25mg of it in Sustanon.

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10 mins on a sunbed would literally kill me. I start at 3 mins and even when i get to the stage of looking like a Spaniard I’m only on 6-7 mins. haha

So i can mix my 10mg with 5000iu of bac water and then 100iu will be 200mcg of MT2? If i did that daily would i still Tan just slower? I’d probably rather ease into it rather than go from Casper to full blown sub-Sahara in a couple of weeks. As i say i do tan quite easily despite being pasty, and the MT2 is as much to decrease appetite as to tan..

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Yeah I’d still swab the vial and inj site. I did think diabetics will use the same pin till they it runs out, but having never used a pen I didn’t know for sure.

Cheers.

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Thanks for the response @Hilly

I’ve been running it for quite a few weeks and recovery seems fine. Better than when i was doing as you suggested as an alternative P/P/L but over 4 fixed days. The issue i had with that was when Legs and Back fell next to each other. Even if i did no lower back loading, i would still have a knock on to my leg work. So i could then only do machines both days which was a bit naff.

Upper / Lower i like but it burns me out really quickly. I end up having to do such low volume i don’t feel it that beneficial.

How i’ve set up my “Bro” split is…

Calf raise 2-3 sets
Cable Lateral 2 sets
Chest Focused Machine Press 2 sets
High Incline Press 2 sets
Chest focused Press 1 set
Chest fly 2 sets
DB or machine lateral 1-2 sets
Cable Tricep Ext 2 sets

Pull down 2 sets
Deadlift variant 2 sets (this is either a DY deadlift, or a RDL-rack pull kind of combo done paused, its brutal)
Row variant 2 sets
Upper back Row 2 sets
Pull down/up wide 1 set
shrug 1 set
rear fly 2 sets or 1 drop set
Hamstring Hyper 1 set (20+ reps)

Calf raise variant 2 sets
as above 2 sets
as above 2 sets
Cable curl 2 sets
CG press/Dip 2 sets
preacher curl 2 sets
Assisted Dip or JM 2 sets (very much tri focused and as precise as can be with form)
Hammer Curl 2 sets
Over head Tri Ext 2 sets
Cable Lateral 2 sets

Leg Curl 2 sets
Leg Press/machine Squat 2 sets
As above 2 sets
Leg ext 2 set or 1 drop
Adductor 2 sets
Ham curl/GHR 1 set
Glute/Hip thrust 1 set

Everything is progressing ok to be fair. I’m in a diet phase so just adjusting volume as needed. If i feel good and im hitting PRs i keep to the template above. If something tanks i just hit the one set and focus on the next exercise.